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Old 01-28-2018, 02:05 PM   #1
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What would happen if there was no sportsman?
They will fill with jet cars or street outlaws
Racing national events are a privilege where your have to earn points to get in
Nhra could car less about our entry fee. PROVEN they haven’t add extra spots in a few years. They can do without us. Look at Englishtown. They can do without it
You gotta earn points plain and simple
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Old 01-28-2018, 02:10 PM   #2
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What would happen if there was no sportsman?
They will fill with jet cars or street outlaws
Racing national events are a privilege where your have to earn points to get in
Nhra could car less about our entry fee. PROVEN they haven’t add extra spots in a few years. They can do without us. Look at Englishtown. They can do without it
You gotta earn points plain and simple
Correct on the earn points is a given

but do the math 500 race car per event times 24 events times say $500 per car is ??? looks around 6 mill per year to me just in entry fees give or take a few dollars just using this as an example ,all I would like NHRA to do is raise the Quota in Stock and Super Stock by 50 entries per event , since I am a Super Stock racer and like Stock
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Old 01-29-2018, 10:59 AM   #3
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Correct on the earn points is a given

but do the math 500 race car per event times 24 events times say $500 per car is ??? looks around 6 mill per year to me just in entry fees give or take a few dollars just using this as an example ,all I would like NHRA to do is raise the Quota in Stock and Super Stock by 50 entries per event , since I am a Super Stock racer and like Stock
I am not trying to cause issues or criticize anyone just trying to help NHRA make more money so the Sportsman purses can go up . It seems to me the Sportsman prize money have not gone up but down ????
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I am not trying to cause issues or criticize anyone just trying to help NHRA make more money so the Sportsman purses can go up . It seems to me the Sportsman prize money have not gone up but down ????
Why would you think that if NHRA made more money, any of it would go to the sportsman racers..........Really??????????????
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:26 AM   #5
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Why would you think that if NHRA made more money, any of it would go to the sportsman racers..........Really??????????????
Because it is NHRA legally, ethically and even morally to create a level playing fields as a non profit entity and a major Sports provider with liberty and justice for all >LOL
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Old 01-28-2018, 03:00 PM   #6
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Racing national events are a privilege......
Not buying this one for a minute. Take a look at the original charter for NHRA and why it was formed.
This reminds me of the old adage " A driver's license is a privilege , not a right"
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Don, there are other classes effected by the quotas. What if they just allowed 50 more super class cars. We pay the same entry and require a lot less oversight. No tech other than seatbelts, fire suites and helmet, diaper and membership and license. Don’t need anybody working scale no fuel check no making sure the car has the right hood or is in the right class no tear downs don’t need to worry about track prep. We support the manufacturers same as S/SS and and there are way more of use than you.
I’ve seen the idea posted that they allow 70 entries in all the classes and 64 qualify and six don’t make the show. We would probably still need 4 grade points and there would still be people with not enough to enter. Heck if it only took 1 grade point someone would complain they only live a mile from track and should be given preference.
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It entertaining that no one remembers when it was NHRA's complete discretion to mail you back a packet of colored entry sheets of what events that you were qualified to enter based on the subjective judgement of someone in administrative offices. You submitted a request list and they decided which entry sheets you received. I get there was no social media but I don't remember all the complaining in the eighties when I got started about this process and it was not based on one objective thing.

Sure seems a lot easier to get a certain amount of grade points and know for sure where you stand. When I asked to get into a couple of races I remember being clearly told National events were a earned privilege to enter.
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Old 01-28-2018, 07:41 PM   #9
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Don, there are other classes effected by the quotas. What if they just allowed 50 more super class cars. We pay the same entry and require a lot less oversight. No tech other than seatbelts, fire suites and helmet, diaper and membership and license. Don’t need anybody working scale no fuel check no making sure the car has the right hood or is in the right class no tear downs don’t need to worry about track prep. We support the manufacturers same as S/SS and and there are way more of use than you.
I’ve seen the idea posted that they allow 70 entries in all the classes and 64 qualify and six don’t make the show. We would probably still need 4 grade points and there would still be people with not enough to enter. Heck if it only took 1 grade point someone would complain they only live a mile from track and should be given preference.
Mr. 363, you bring up a valid point that I have never considered.To increase the car count by ten cars, NHRA would need an additional 60 spots for both stk and SS, sg and sc , and TD and TS if they are competing that weekend...It would be difficult to find the room at Gainesville BUT it could easily be done at Vegas......BTW if anyone ever figures out the NHRA business model, please pass it onto me......
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Old 01-28-2018, 08:24 PM   #10
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I have always thought that for ahfs to work you need a bump. If there were more than 64 superclass cars and a bump we would have to try to run .90 instead of just having a time trial. It would be a whole new challenge for the super class racers.
I don’t know why I’m posting my driver has 0 grade points and probably won’t have more than 1 or 2 after next year. After 25 years of chasing NHRA I give up. We have a great track 45 miles from home that runs 10 Q 16 races and we have the Midwest Super Comp Assoc. That runs 13 races with all but one being a weekend double and all are less than 200 miles from home.
Not mad at NHRA still love them just tired. Leave Sat. morning and be home Sat. or Sun. night.
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