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Old 02-25-2018, 03:04 PM   #1
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We’ve been debating that on Facebook. Not knocking the racer that did this, even though last year he BLASTED Jerry Emmons on here about doing it, but the rules need to be interpreted evenly. I’ve braked hard and so have most people on here. But when there’s tire smoke and an obvious loss of control that’s when the rule is supposed to kick in. Or at least that’s what I’ve been told. But Jerry didn’t smoke the tires nor lose control so at this point I’m dumbfounded.
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Old 02-25-2018, 03:08 PM   #2
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Old 02-25-2018, 03:25 PM   #3
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Mike check out my Facebook post, the video is on there
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Old 02-25-2018, 06:47 PM   #4
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Wow! How did they not toss him for that?
There is a saying about glass houses.
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Old 02-26-2018, 05:56 AM   #5
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A note of Clarification:

My name is John Irving = A 70ish slightly plump Senior Citizen.

I post quite regularly on this site as I am sure everybody is aware.

My son is Jon Irving = A 20 something young man.

He very seldom if every posts anything on this site.

The statements that I post here are strictly and only my
own personal opinions and impressions.

They are assuredly NOT those of my sons or our crew ......
certainly it is patently unfair to assail them for my statements
however much you may disagree or dislike me (Or probably Both).

That being said:

My son immediate upon exiting the track took responsibility
for his bad judgement and terrible display of lack of driving skill.
Indeed, he fully expected to be thrown out of the race and would
have accepted that without any further discussion!

We are grateful to NHRA for the warning and understand that there
will be no further warning given to him this year.

I can only speculate that the consideration that he races a dozen
Divisional and National races for the last 10 years without a single
incident or issue (500 plus passes) = may have influenced NHRA's
decision on how to handle the incident.

I also immediately communicated to him my disappointment with the
situation ......He does fully understand further issues may mean that
we may park our team for a period of time.

He further apologized to the Torres Team for his actions.
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Old 02-26-2018, 09:34 AM   #6
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John, I'm not surprised to see that you're a man of character.
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Old 02-26-2018, 09:54 AM   #7
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John, I'm not surprised to see that you're a man of character.
Jon is as well and John's clarification exemplifies that.
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Old 02-26-2018, 03:04 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GTX JOHN View Post
A note of Clarification:

My name is John Irving = A 70ish slightly plump Senior Citizen.

I post quite regularly on this site as I am sure everybody is aware.

My son is Jon Irving = A 20 something young man.

He very seldom if every posts anything on this site.

The statements that I post here are strictly and only my
own personal opinions and impressions.

They are assuredly NOT those of my sons or our crew ......
certainly it is patently unfair to assail them for my statements
however much you may disagree or dislike me (Or probably Both).

That being said:

My son immediate upon exiting the track took responsibility
for his bad judgement and terrible display of lack of driving skill.
Indeed, he fully expected to be thrown out of the race and would
have accepted that without any further discussion!

We are grateful to NHRA for the warning and understand that there
will be no further warning given to him this year.

I can only speculate that the consideration that he races a dozen
Divisional and National races for the last 10 years without a single
incident or issue (500 plus passes) = may have influenced NHRA's
decision on how to handle the incident.

I also immediately communicated to him my disappointment with the
situation ......He does fully understand further issues may mean that
we may park our team for a period of time.

He further apologized to the Torres Team for his actions.
Thank you for the explanation.
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Old 02-27-2018, 12:10 AM   #9
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John/Jon I don’t personally know you and I don’t judge people based on them stating their opinion because I assure u I ALWAYS state mine...lol...and like I said originally I wasn’t bashing your son for his driving as I’ve done the exact same thing, it happens. My point I was trying to make that somehow has gone askew is NHRA’s uneven applying of the braking rule. I think if the precedence is one warning then next time a DQ we can all live with that. As long as there’s a clear line in the sand and the rule is enforced evenly then everyone can race. That was my whole point all along, but it turned into a whole different can of worms, even as far as one person claiming we were “whining” about what happened to Emmons last year...all u can do is laugh sometimes...lol

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Old 02-28-2018, 07:47 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GTX JOHN View Post
A note of Clarification:

My name is John Irving = A 70ish slightly plump Senior Citizen.

I post quite regularly on this site as I am sure everybody is aware.

My son is Jon Irving = A 20 something young man.

He very seldom if every posts anything on this site.

The statements that I post here are strictly and only my
own personal opinions and impressions.

They are assuredly NOT those of my sons or our crew ......
certainly it is patently unfair to assail them for my statements
however much you may disagree or dislike me (Or probably Both).

That being said:

My son immediate upon exiting the track took responsibility
for his bad judgement and terrible display of lack of driving skill.
Indeed, he fully expected to be thrown out of the race and would
have accepted that without any further discussion!

We are grateful to NHRA for the warning and understand that there
will be no further warning given to him this year.

I can only speculate that the consideration that he races a dozen
Divisional and National races for the last 10 years without a single
incident or issue (500 plus passes) = may have influenced NHRA's
decision on how to handle the incident.

I also immediately communicated to him my disappointment with the
situation ......He does fully understand further issues may mean that
we may park our team for a period of time.

He further apologized to the Torres Team for his actions.

Class in Class Racing right there! Everyone makes mistakes , classy people admit it and take ownership.
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