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Old 06-21-2018, 05:47 PM   #1
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Zero. If you follow the current rules and take advantage of the aftermarket replacement parts that are allowed you will end up with the same car.
Okay, so if I'm understanding correctly, the real risk to me isn't the CJ platform itself, per se- the real risk to me would be that someone with much deeper pockets than me would develop this particular engine to the point that they cause the horsepower to be factored to the moon, making it much more difficult for me to even run under index.

Do I have that right?
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Okay, so if I'm understanding correctly, the real risk to me isn't the CJ platform itself, per se- the real risk to me would be that someone with much deeper pockets than me would develop this particular engine to the point that they cause the horsepower to be factored to the moon, making it much more difficult for me to even run under index.

Do I have that right?
Not necessarily. But, it is a risk that we all take. As long as they don't run 1.2 under, you can protect your combination by lowering the average. I doubt that you will see many of these for a while.
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Not necessarily. But, it is a risk that we all take. As long as they don't run 1.2 under, you can protect your combination by lowering the average. I doubt that you will see many of these for a while.
I'm not a class racer- is 1.2 the threshold for AHFS?

I just don't want to spend $20K or so on a retirement hobby, just to get torpedoed by something that I never saw coming.

Again, I have no interest in setting a record or racing at Indy- I just would like to be able to comfortably run under index.
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I'm not a class racer- is 1.2 the threshold for AHFS?

I just don't want to spend $20K or so on a retirement hobby, just to get torpedoed by something that I never saw coming.

Again, I have no interest in setting a record or racing at Indy- I just would like to be able to comfortably run under index.
@ 1.20 under index then that automatically gets what is referred to as "Tuesday Horsepower" or "instant h.p." ... i.e. On Tuesday following the conclusion of that event, a percentage of hp increase ( based on how far under the 1.20 threshold the racer ran) gets added to the current factored h.p.

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...633&zoneid=132

There have been times where a racer ran 1.19 under once and for the rest of the review period ( every 6 months) never ran more than .999 under index again, and the combo did not get a hp increase at the end of the review period.
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I'm not a class racer- is 1.2 the threshold for AHFS?

I just don't want to spend $20K or so on a retirement hobby, just to get torpedoed by something that I never saw coming.

Again, I have no interest in setting a record or racing at Indy- I just would like to be able to comfortably run under index.
The best way someone can get into class racing is to buy a lower class turn key vehicle that is a proven combo. Say like P/SA or slower. That's how I bought my first NHRA Stocker.
I ran 1.4x under on my first pass in NHRA Stock with the car in my avatar and set the Q/SA record the same day.. There was no way I could have gotten a legal Stocker to run that far under index if I had built it myself for that amount of money.

If you want to go bracket racing with a class car, then the Stock Eliminator field is less populated in the (lower letter) classes so the odds of a heads up pairing ( with another vehicle the same class as yours) during eliminations is greatly reduced.


For $ 20K you could probably buy a turn key car, open trailer and a decent pickup tow rig
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The best way someone can get into class racing is to buy a lower class turn key vehicle that is a proven combo. Say like P/SA or slower. That's how I bought my first NHRA Stocker.
I ran 1.4x under on my first pass in NHRA Stock with the car in my avatar and set the Q/SA record the same day.. There was no way I could have gotten a legal Stocker to run that far under index if I had built it myself for that amount of money.

If you want to go bracket racing with a class car, then the Stock Eliminator field is less populated in the (lower letter) classes so the odds of a heads up pairing ( with another vehicle the same class as yours) during eliminations is greatly reduced.


For $ 20K you could probably buy a turn key car, open trailer and a decent pickup tow rig

Now that's some really good advice right there!
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The best way someone can get into class racing is to buy a lower class turn key vehicle that is a proven combo. Say like P/SA or slower. That's how I bought my first NHRA Stocker.
I ran 1.4x under on my first pass in NHRA Stock with the car in my avatar and set the Q/SA record the same day.. There was no way I could have gotten a legal Stocker to run that far under index if I had built it myself for that amount of money.

For $ 20K you could probably buy a turn key car, open trailer and a decent pickup tow rig
Yes, you're right. But I was still curious about something else.

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If you want to go bracket racing with a class car, then the Stock Eliminator field is less populated in the (lower letter) classes so the odds of a heads up pairing ( with another vehicle the same class as yours) during eliminations is greatly reduced.
This part I know.
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