“Live from” the NHRA D2 Nat open series at Piedmont

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by KEN BUGAJ

The holiday weekend messed it up a bit, I know three Longhaney cars were missing, Jim Marshall was on tour in Epping. Terry Taylor, Tim Sloan , Bill Plage, Cody Phillips, Brandon Peterson Hillery Sloan have already changed over to a NHRA stocker, there's at least another six or seven crate motor cars that didn't race. Give it some time. 👍

Ken you're misunderstanding my statement a bit. What I am trying to say is that there was just as many cars at this race as there normally was for the IHRA events even without PS. With the exception of the first race, Stock and SS has been decent car counts for an inaugural series, I think what will kill it is the dismal turnouts in the other categories. Most others have had less than 10 in a class. I'm supportive of what Rich is trying to do but unfortunately I think other people like myself only have so much time and running a full schedule of Nationals and division races is all the time I have.

[Ed Carpenter]

[QUOTE=Dan Fahey;567054]

Originally Posted by james schaechter

Dan, have you tried to contact Rich personally? With IHRA’s demise, the best pure Stocker move is to get together and see if Rich would consider allowing them. I don’t think anyone would have any trouble with PS cars running. I know for a fact that it won’t happen just by posting here. I would think that there would be no downside for the 1/8 mile open series to let them in. Especially to add a few cars. I know a phone call and e mail is a lot more likely then a conversion to a NHRA J/SA



Thanks JAMES!
It is not just the PS cars also the GT Stockers too.
Thankfully the CM guys stepped up to get venues to race in.
CM, GT and PS Rules are the well established, nothing to invent.
There is no down side except for the resistance of a few racers!
More cars, more revenue, more bench racing.

Just sad that there are motivated racers willing to support the sport.
Yet the decision makers decided to shut us out.
IMHO Not a smart business decision!

Before the IHRA announcement there were a handful of people building new Pure Stockers and received questions from others what to do!
My advocacy was working, had a small movement going too!

Converting to Stock costs a lot of money and especially time.
Not just about adding a cam and roll bar.
It is also getting the car to run 7 to 8 tenths under to compete.
If I was 50 years old might feel different.
PS was the perfect venue to get back into Class Racing.
At 67....too much right now to move to Stock.

Had NHRA supported GT, CM and PS a lot more racers would have built them.
They are cost effective low maintenance race cars.
I am not a professional mechanic so takes a lot to be prepared.
Only so much can be done in a driveway under HOA Rules.

Hello out there to Gray, Bobby and Ray!

Peace

Dan u don’t need to run .80 under to race and u know that. Our stuff ran .40 .50 under for years! Make the car stock legal and go have fun.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by GUMP

So, you are saying that if the NHRA would be willing to change their rules you will support their events. But, you barely supported the IHRA........

GUMP
What are you talking about?
I ran every IHRA race I could get to last year.
Empire, Keystone, Piedmont, Farmington, MIR !
Plus a Contingency Sponsor for the Pure Stock Challenge..
What the hell you want ??

To answer your question
Yes I will support NHRA if they run the Pure Stockers and GT cars.
Would have made time to show up and so would have the others.
Would have paid NHRA fees to become an NHRA Contingency Sponsor.
I am not a passive sideline barker name-calling complainer.
It is about supporting the sport..!

It is tough to plan going to these events and dealing with commitments.
NHRA just plain erased decades of historic drag racing classes.

Before the IHRA blow-up, people were building and planning to build Pure Stocker for 2018.

Like Field of Dreams.....You build it they will come !

Despite all those that converted to NHRA Stockers.
At Piedmont a third of the cars were CM.
GT and PS would have pushed that past 50%

Ed Carpenter;
Eventually will have to convert to Stock to run Divisional Meets.
Found a place to get a proper Roll Bar installed....

For now happy and grateful with what I have.
Yeah it is about having fun !!

Dan

D

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

GUMP
What are you talking about?
I ran every IHRA race I could get to last year.
Empire, Keystone, Piedmont, Farmington, MIR !
Plus a Contingency Sponsor for the Pure Stock Challenge..
What the hell you want ??

To answer your question
Yes I will support NHRA if they run the Pure Stockers and GT cars.
Would have made time to show up and so would have the others.
Would have paid NHRA fees to become an NHRA Contingency Sponsor.
I am not a passive sideline barker name-calling complainer.
It is about supporting the sport..!

It is tough to plan going to these events and dealing with commitments.
NHRA just plain erased decades of historic drag racing classes.

Before the IHRA blow-up, people were building and planning to build Pure Stocker for 2018.

Like Field of Dreams.....You build it they will come !

Despite all those that converted to NHRA Stockers.
At Piedmont a third of the cars were CM.
GT and PS would have pushed that past 50%

Eventually will have to convert to J/K/SA to run Divisional Meets.
For now happy and grateful with what I have.

Dan

D

So you think 10 or 12 PS and GT cars would be been at Piedmont to make up 50% of the field Dan? There's barely that in the whole country, Perrone got you right Dilusional.....

[J.R. Haddad]

Dan, NHRA erased nothing!! IHRA walked away from your class.
All of the Pure Stock deal was not profitable for IHRA, why would
you expect somebody else to want it. Division 2 examined where
they could help, and get financial help in return. They like IHRA,
decided it wasn't with your class, or with your awards posting.
So now we have IHRA saying No to Dan's class, NHRA saying
no to Dan's class, I don't know who is left that you can try.
Some people flog a dead horse. This horse has been processed
through the dog food factory, canned, sold, fed to the dog, dog has
pooped it out, and so go's the story. I am with Cooter on this one.
J. R.

[Duane Eiskant II]

Ok so I did some digging. Since this is a 1/8th mile series let’s look at nitro joes 2017 ihra 1/8th mile stats shall we? So we had 4 (4) GT cars that raced in all of ihra in the 1/8 th mile in 2017 ( 2 of which we’re traditial stockers that were likely trying to avoid heads up runs, so that makes it 2!) now pure stockers. 9. 9 pure stockers ran in the 1/8th mile in ihra during 2017. Leave GT cars out of your arguments because in all actuality IF ihra had continued to race class cars this 2018 was going to be the last year for gt cars over there as they were getting the axe. Why? Because there was only 3 maybe 4 true gt cars in existence. Now are you ready for this? 2019 was going to be the last year for pure stockers. I still had a lot of friends that were officials in ihra and I talked to them and we had several long talks about it when they were deciding to do away with those classes. I told them it didn’t matter to me because I could run super stock by changing the letters on the windows. I do feel sorry for the guys like Bobby Ray and Gary who’s cars were 100% legal but the officials knew there were cars that weren’t legal but with the double race format there was never enough time to send them through tear down. So to hurt anyone’s feelings but what’s done is done and it took one division director to go out on a limb for the ss production and cm cars. I’m afraid with the lack of support in basically ihra country unless something happens at the remaining races the future don’t look to good. Bottom line is if you really want to class race you’ll fix your car to run within the rules of the sanctioning body that’s trying to give you an outlet to race. If not then Well big tires in the back little tires in the front and pick between top et or foot brake.

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Duane Eiskant II

Ok so I did some digging. Since this is a 1/8th mile series let’s look at nitro joes 2017 ihra 1/8th mile stats shall we? So we had 4 (4) GT cars that raced in all of ihra in the 1/8 th mile in 2017 ( 2 of which we’re traditial stockers that were likely trying to avoid heads up runs, so that makes it 2!) now pure stockers. 9. 9 pure stockers ran in the 1/8th mile in ihra during 2017. Leave GT cars out of your arguments because in all actuality IF ihra had continued to race class cars this 2018 was going to be the last year for gt cars over there as they were getting the axe. Why? Because there was only 3 maybe 4 true gt cars in existence. Now are you ready for this? 2019 was going to be the last year for pure stockers. I still had a lot of friends that were officials in ihra and I talked to them and we had several long talks about it when they were deciding to do away with those classes. I told them it didn’t matter to me because I could run super stock by changing the letters on the windows. I do feel sorry for the guys like Bobby Ray and Gary who’s cars were 100% legal but the officials knew there were cars that weren’t legal but with the double race format there was never enough time to send them through tear down. So to hurt anyone’s feelings but what’s done is done and it took one division director to go out on a limb for the ss production and cm cars. I’m afraid with the lack of support in basically ihra country unless something happens at the remaining races the future don’t look to good. Bottom line is if you really want to class race you’ll fix your car to run within the rules of the sanctioning body that’s trying to give you an outlet to race. If not then Well big tires in the back little tires in the front and pick between top et or foot brake.

That pretty much sums it up Duane, but ol Dilusional Dan thinks he was starting a revolution and the rest of us are the crazy ones lol!

[Duane Eiskant II]

Exactly

[Chris1529]

Originally Posted by Duane Eiskant II

Ok so I did some digging. Since this is a 1/8th mile series let’s look at nitro joes 2017 ihra 1/8th mile stats shall we? So we had 4 (4) GT cars that raced in all of ihra in the 1/8 th mile in 2017 ( 2 of which we’re traditial stockers that were likely trying to avoid heads up runs, so that makes it 2!) now pure stockers. 9. 9 pure stockers ran in the 1/8th mile in ihra during 2017. Leave GT cars out of your arguments because in all actuality IF ihra had continued to race class cars this 2018 was going to be the last year for gt cars over there as they were getting the axe. Why? Because there was only 3 maybe 4 true gt cars in existence. Now are you ready for this? 2019 was going to be the last year for pure stockers. I still had a lot of friends that were officials in ihra and I talked to them and we had several long talks about it when they were deciding to do away with those classes. I told them it didn’t matter to me because I could run super stock by changing the letters on the windows. I do feel sorry for the guys like Bobby Ray and Gary who’s cars were 100% legal but the officials knew there were cars that weren’t legal but with the double race format there was never enough time to send them through tear down. So to hurt anyone’s feelings but what’s done is done and it took one division director to go out on a limb for the ss production and cm cars. I’m afraid with the lack of support in basically ihra country unless something happens at the remaining races the future don’t look to good. Bottom line is if you really want to class race you’ll fix your car to run within the rules of the sanctioning body that’s trying to give you an outlet to race. If not then Well big tires in the back little tires in the front and pick between top et or foot brake.

Sounds like that information should have been made public a couple years ago.
About like the way they didn't mention anything about dropping class racing all together to all of the people who were at the last IHRA class race at Dragway 42 in Sept of 2017. There was a big dinner put on by Summit. Enough IHRA people were there they could have announced the changes then instead of just letting rumors fly or putting out a press release about their new bracket series.

I am glad NHRA Div 2 has stepped up to do this for the racers in the southeast. I hope as many take advantage of it as they can.

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by Chris1529

About like the way they didn't mention anything about dropping class racing all together to all of the people who were at the last IHRA class race at Dragway 42 in Sept of 2017. There was a big dinner put on by Summit. Enough IHRA people were there they could have announced the changes then instead of just letting rumors fly or putting out a press release about their new bracket series.

Would you want to be the guy in an IHRA shirt holding the mic for that???