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Old 06-25-2018, 06:02 PM   #1
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That puts him a tenth and a half quicker than the next Ford (Tasca) which makes me wonder if there was a timing issue or something.

BTW- taking nothing away from the Watson team. They have consistently been the strongest Ford this season and they are the closest thing to a factory team. But that level of performance increase is odd. He was the slowest ET winner of round 1, and then is the fastest of the weekend in round 2.
He had a strong Q2 run with the 2nd highest MPH at the 1/8 mile, so the performance is there.

The 60' was a tenth better in R2 than it was in R1, so I'm guessing the increase in 'performance' was more related to traction.
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Chris Holbrook has his new John Holt built CJ @ the paint shop.
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Chris Holbrook has his new John Holt built CJ @ the paint shop.
That's what I've been waiting to hear! Anyone know anything about the CJ that Bo Butner is supposed to be getting?
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The 60' was a tenth better in R2 than it was in R1, so I'm guessing the increase in 'performance' was more related to traction.
You could be on to something. I've been told that the Ford 4-link in the 2016 is tricky compared to their older 3-link suspension that was supposedly more forgiving. I know there's more to getting down than the rear suspension but it sure seems to help.
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Adding to my earlier questions...

some racers think NHRA will clamp down on the Showdown class and say "no more engine combos"

Wouldn't that make it more important to get a new 18 combo and the 5.4Lw/4.0L class legal ASAP just in case they close the book?
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Adding to my earlier questions...

some racers think NHRA will clamp down on the Showdown class and say "no more engine combos"

Wouldn't that make it more important to get a new 18 combo and the 5.4Lw/4.0L class legal ASAP just in case they close the book?






From what I hear they are going to put a freeze on engine combinations for 2019 for the Showdown class but Mike has been telling the higher ups in Ford and myself that the engine combination freeze is on now. The higher ups in Ford realize after their meeting with NHRA in Norwalk that the engine freeze will not take place till 2019.


You were right on the 2018 engine combinations. Should have been put on the books months ago. We are 60 cubic inches down from GM and Mopar. That's like running on 7 cylinders.
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Adding to my earlier questions...

You were right on the 2018 engine combinations. Should have been put on the books months ago. We are 60 cubic inches down from GM and Mopar. That's like running on 7 cylinders.

Ford may be down 60 cubic inches: but up 16 valves, up 3 camshafts and down 16 pushrods. Based on MPH, I think all 3 brands are pretty equal, traction and 60 foot times seem to be the issue.
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total valve aera for the DOHC 6.189 sq in, Hemi 6.018 sq in.
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Ford may be down 60 cubic inches: but up 16 valves, up 3 camshafts and down 16 pushrods. Based on MPH, I think all 3 brands are pretty equal, traction and 60 foot times seem to be the issue.



Cubic inches is torque, cylinder heads is top end hp.


Torque is your ET, top end HP is your MPH.
Along with 100,000.00 dollar transmissions
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Jim,
I hope you mean $10,000.00 transmissions.....
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