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Old 07-29-2018, 07:31 PM   #1
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Captain, if either the GVWR of the dually or the trailer is over 10,000 lbs. you will need a CDL...you are hauling a vehicle up and down the highway and you are being compensated ....ie ....you are being paid to transport this vehicle....a vehicle that is not titled in your name.....As Painter pointed out, when Buford T Justice pulls you over the **** will hit the fan. After you play dumb and tell him you didn’t think that you needed a CDL you will need a FOLDER to put all the tickets in...He will park you until you locate a local driver with a CDL to drive your rig to the state line...Now, with all that being said....when you open the trailer door to show Buford T what you are hauling, there is the possibility he may drop to his knees and roll on the ground laughing his Azz off.......
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Old 07-29-2018, 07:41 PM   #2
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Has anyone ever weighed a 26' trailer ?
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Old 07-29-2018, 08:30 PM   #3
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It doesn't matter what it weighs, unless you reclassify it. The GVW is what they look at. The fact that you are being compensated for transporting this vehicle to and from events makes you commercial and all the rules apply. Log Book, or ELD, US DOT numbers, physical, drug card. same as OTR drivers. Limited driving time.............................................. .................................................. ....................

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Old 07-30-2018, 05:08 PM   #4
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A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles: Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.

If truck and trailer weigh 10,001+ a DOT # is required.

I'm not sure at what point you need a log book but if you do....... a ELD must be used unless the engine is 99 or older. There is also the short haul exemption. If you travel 100 air miles and return home every night no log needed. Then that has the rolling 30 exemption, this states you can travel outside the 100mi 8 days out of every 30 working days. Now I've asked 3 DOT officers if you can stay out on these 8 days but received 3 different answers.

There's also a motor sport exemption. Lol

My advice, do everything not to get stopped. Biggest thing I see guys getting pulled over for is traveling I'n the truck restricted lanes. This is even if your towing a open trailer. If you do get stopped, don't ever give DOT attitude!!! They will ruin your day quick!!
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:25 PM   #5
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[QUOTE=J&S Racing;568727]A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles: Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.


Not totally true.
If the vehicle is a personal vehicle titled in your name and registered RV and you own the entire contents personally you only need a class A or B depending on the vehicle being towed. Under 10,000 lbs Class B over 10,000 class A.
Called a Non Commercial CDL with no log book etc.
What I currently have.
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Old 07-30-2018, 09:06 PM   #6
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A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles: Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.


Not totally true.
If the vehicle is a personal vehicle titled in your name and registered RV and you own the entire contents personally you only need a class A or B depending on the vehicle being towed. Under 10,000 lbs Class B over 10,000 class A.
Called a Non Commercial CDL with no log book etc.
What I currently have.
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That was a direct paste from FMSCA.
Class B pertains to strait jobs only.
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Old 07-31-2018, 10:10 AM   #7
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That was a direct paste from FMSCA.
Class B pertains to strait jobs only.
There are exceptions listed further down in the regulations.
Class B is for a greater than 26,000 lb vehicle only. My motorhome is 33,000 dry and requires a Class B.
To obtain my license I took the CDL written test and a Driving Test in the motorhome just like the CDL test. Just no physical or drug test required.
I do not have the regulations in front of me however, I carry copies of those pages with me in my motorhome to be able to show them to an officer should he want to see them.
Just best not to argue with the officer who stopped you but you can with his supervisor if needed or the judge when in court.
The key is you are not commercial if you own all of the rig and contents, it is registered as a RV in your name, you are the driver, and you are not a for profit operation.
I just carry my hobby toys in a big rig.
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Old 07-30-2018, 10:35 PM   #8
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If your truck is 2000 or newer, you don’t need Eld if do 8 or less trips a month.
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Old 07-31-2018, 06:17 AM   #9
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If your truck is 2000 or newer, you don’t need Eld if do 8 or less trips a month.
Incorrect... 1999 or older. But that rule actually pertains to engine year rather than model year.
And from what I'm told the rolling 30 exemption and those 8 days the vehicle still needs to return home every day.

This is the problem with the whole deal. Everyone has different interpretations of the rules even the DOT officers but they don't mess around. They would rather hand you a fist full of tickets and put you out of service and let you fight it out in court.

I know this won't pertain to op but fuel is probably the thing that can get a racer in the most trouble!! If your not hazmat compliant fuel must be in no more than 4 dot approved 5 gal containers that are secured. And for the record your fuel cell in NOT dot approved so if you get on the wrong side of a officer they can get you for that.
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