1969,,A/SA,,63' Max Wedge vs. Street Hemi

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

Max Wedge production ended when Hemi production started in 1964. It has been documented that a few people who ordered MW cars, received Hemi's...and weren't really pleased. Some soldiered on with success, others gave in early.

As far as what Paul posted above...not the best example. Jere Stahl was running mid-11's in 1966 with his Street Hemi Belvedere in A/S.

Why didn't Chrysler back the Max Wedge cars in Stock after '64? Why support something you're not selling...or even building anymore for that matter? While there were MW racers who did receive parts help from Chrysler after 1964...none were ever at the level of Sox or Landy with Chrysler support.

Thanks Steve it all kinda makes sense now.


Bear in mind though, A/S in 1966 was really more like SUPER stock rules - any cam, any intake - but just still on stock class tires. So Stahl's "street" hemi was quite a bit closer to a "race" hemi. Similarly, Grump's L79 Nova that "ran with" Stahl's hemi was far, far from a "stock class" L79, it was more like a full-on Super-Stock L79 and the result was a total screamer. The 1966 A/S rules were a lot more like next year's SS/BA=7.00 rules except for tires.

[DeuceCoupe]

I'm still settling this issue in my mind, came up with the following:




In this thread, Paul C lists the cars/classes for 1966:
http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=46189


He lists the 426/425 MW cars in A/S=7.00 class, implying they were NOT refactored. OK score again for no refactoring.


What bothered me last nite (why????) is, what about the RECORDS? The MaxWedge cars went 12.00 S/S and 12.05 S/SA in the Jan 1964 records sheet. Since their W/P=7.58, they should have "moved" to AA=7.00 when it was created in June 1964, right? But on the Aug 1964 records sheet, they have vanished. It then occurred to me, when the classes change, can cars "move"? What I conclude is, cars can "move" on the record sheet, but only "across" eg from B/S=9.50 to D/S=9.50, or "up" eg from 8.70 to 8.50 class, but a record car CANNOT move "down", eg from 10.60 to 11.00 class or from S/S=0.0 to AA=7.00 class. The record has to be re-set. This is consistent with 1967-1968 when all the classes changed.


So yes (I am guessing), the old Max Wedge records set in S/S and S/SA would vanish - they would NOT drop down to AA/S and AA/SA.


Why weren't they re-set? I think Steve covered that well. Lost factory support, probably lost some magic "factory" transmissions, etc, some magic drivers too, and the records just didn't happen.


Does this sound about right?