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Old 09-10-2018, 09:09 AM   #1
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Gary, while it’s true I don’t own or run an AH car. I’m a crew guy for one the prominent Barton AH customers. Your buddy Steven spews a lot of venom toward him, other people and creates a lot of turmoil as he’s a disrespectful competitor and loves controversy. He talks like he’s Muhammad Ali but he’s really Chuck Wepner. In the end your take on things is about as valuable as mine is.

Phish, your a jackass. And all your talk is shallow and without substance as the last two years you’ve come to race Indy proves it. I hope your success continues just like the last two years.


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Stephen,
I don't have a horse in SS/AH but you do, you do have the right to make comments about other SS/AH competitors, cars and engines.

I haven't. Seen Todd Hoven ever listed as a competitors in SS/AH. He doesn't own a car to the best of my knowledge, he's just a driver for Mr. Carp. Todd is a hater without a SS/AH car, so please take his disrespect with a grain of salt.

I wish you the best in your battle with Nhra and Hemi engine builders. I believe the Bartons are good honest people. JR. and SR. Are not honest people, ask any of his small block chevy customers in the late 90s or 2000s.
Wish Dave Layer / heads up could tell you about JR. and SR.

Good Luck
Gary Tolefson

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Old 09-10-2018, 01:03 PM   #2
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So after all this and back on the original topic, do we all agree that "Lane Choice" for ALL class runs and eliminations will be a "coin toss", like it states in the NHRA rulebook? Dyno
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Old 09-10-2018, 09:19 PM   #3
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So after all this and back on the original topic, do we all agree that "Lane Choice" for ALL class runs and eliminations will be a "coin toss", like it states in the NHRA rulebook? Dyno
As long as I have raced (mid '60s) we have always flipped a coin for lane choice.
Never had an issue with it.
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Old 09-10-2018, 10:28 PM   #4
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Todd,
I made the mistake off judging you by your post about Stephen. I have never met Stephen or you, I thought you were judging him because his car was slow, his age or budget.
You have proven yourself as a driver and I'm envious of the Barton Powered 65 Dodge you drive.

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Old 09-11-2018, 07:55 AM   #5
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Keep it simple toss the coin and go race.
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Old 09-11-2018, 08:48 AM   #6
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:50 AM   #7
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Well that went the wrong direction.
Here is the official wording that we use at the events. Hope that helps, now you can start a new thread about all the other topics.

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 Lane loading during qualifying –assign odd numbered lanes for LL and even for RL – let the competitors get the lane they want if possible – If the end of the session results in a single lane of competitors, the first competitor in the front of the line will receive the desired lane, the competitor immediately following will be put in the opposite lane. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE SHOULD SINGLES BE RAN UNLESS THERE IS ONLY ONE LEFT.
 All rounds of Stk and SS are paired with lane choice determined by the flip of the coin. This includes Class Eliminations.
 Race sequence for the first three pair to run in round one of eliminations shall be designated on the ladder. These will be the pairs of the three lowest qualifiers in the field. For example, for a 60-car ladder this would be #60 vs #30; #59 vs #29; and #58 vs #28 qualifiers. The remainder of the field is to immediately follow the designated pairs. The three designated pairs must be in the lanes and ready when eliminations are called – failure to be at the head of the lanes ready to run in the designated order may result in single runs.
 Any incomplete pairings (with the exception of the first three designated pairs) should be held until the end of the round to give every opportunity for their competitor to show. If no other pairs exist, staging personnel should notify the tower of the competition singles to be ran, including the missing car number.
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Keep it simple toss the coin and go race.
Touché!
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:44 PM   #9
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I did not know of the hemi shootout standing rule for lane choice but in both of my rounds i offered lane choice to the quicker hemi car out of respect. SS/AH is the pro stock of super stock. I do wish we could get .20 back on the index.
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