Make the Chevrolet Win

[Superfan1]

Originally Posted by Stephen Bell

We are all entitled to our opinions, but here are the facts:
1. Dodge doesn’t race a production a race car. The engine didn’t come in the car from the factory. The car has been significantly modified.
2. Ford and Chevy do race a car with the engine that the car came with.
3. The top three CJ’s and Copo’s consistently run with in .03’s of each other!
4. Dodge is outrunning the other combinations by 6 mph, at 20-25 hp per mph there is no way they don’t have 100-150 more hp than CJ’s and Copo’s. 1.25 60ft times and out running the other brands by .10-.12 every run at Indy is factual.
5. These cars are showcasing the manufacturer’s and how cool stock eliminator cars are! What will ruin the class is out of control spending. This class needs to be regulated by a combination of weight and pulley size. If this doesn’t happen there will not be full fields in the future and the class will go away.

My opinion is that the class is pretty cool! I like that Dodge has their act together and is really fast. I don’t like showing up the the races with no chance of winning unless a Dodge has a mechanical failure or spins the tires(at 1.25 60ft and 20degrees of timing out of the car for over second it will never happen). I think that Ford and Chevrolet are working on improvements for next year and will close the gap. The cars need to run 7.90’s@175 and that’s it. It’s very marketable that a production car from the factory can do that and it’s relatable. From a performance standpoint anything more than that the engines don’t live and there is only so much a 3,500lb car and a 9 inch tire can do safely! I also think that Dave Ley and Danny Garcia have done a great job trying to keep this class in its box. NHRA is doing what they can to understand this class and it’s future. It is a new class and needs some tweaking, but if done correctly it will be a viable platform for some great racing!

S.Bell

Excellent points Stephen, great post!

[Ralph A Powell]

Chevy did same thing with the first batch of COPO's when they recalled the production blocks and heads on the S/C engines with the LSX blocks and heads non production parts that were not installed on those cars. So you should say that Chevy started the practice.

Originally Posted by Stephen Bell

We are all entitled to our opinions, but here are the facts:
1. Dodge doesn’t race a production a race car. The engine didn’t come in the car from the factory. The car has been significantly modified.
2. Ford and Chevy do race a car with the engine that the car came with.
3. The top three CJ’s and Copo’s consistently run with in .03’s of each other!
4. Dodge is outrunning the other combinations by 6 mph, at 20-25 hp per mph there is no way they don’t have 100-150 more hp than CJ’s and Copo’s. 1.25 60ft times and out running the other brands by .10-.12 every run at Indy is factual.
5. These cars are showcasing the manufacturer’s and how cool stock eliminator cars are! What will ruin the class is out of control spending. This class needs to be regulated by a combination of weight and pulley size. If this doesn’t happen there will not be full fields in the future and the class will go away.

My opinion is that the class is pretty cool! I like that Dodge has their act together and is really fast. I don’t like showing up the the races with no chance of winning unless a Dodge has a mechanical failure or spins the tires(at 1.25 60ft and 20degrees of timing out of the car for over second it will never happen). I think that Ford and Chevrolet are working on improvements for next year and will close the gap. The cars need to run 7.90’s@175 and that’s it. It’s very marketable that a production car from the factory can do that and it’s relatable. From a performance standpoint anything more than that the engines don’t live and there is only so much a 3,500lb car and a 9 inch tire can do safely! I also think that Dave Ley and Danny Garcia have done a great job trying to keep this class in its box. NHRA is doing what they can to understand this class and it’s future. It is a new class and needs some tweaking, but if done correctly it will be a viable platform for some great racing!

S.Bell

[Frank Castros]

It didn't take too long before FS got f'd up, didn't it?

[killintime6968]

The costs in this class have got to point that it makes running SS/AH look affordable.

[nhramnl]

Originally Posted by killintime6968

The costs in this class have got to point that it makes running SS/AH look affordable.

And that is exactly what has caused the steady decline of Stock and Super Stock drag racing. People with ridiculous money see a new potential way to be cool, spend money and show-off; they set down their golf clubs, park their CVO Harley, write a few checks and are suddenly drag racers. They get the best car, engine, trans, etc. that money can possibly buy (and there are always "name" guys ready to take as much of their money as they can get), and the guy who actually races out of love for the sport is relegated to "poor sap" status. Can't help but wonder though, why the Comp guys seem so different; they appear to just show up and race, without all of the controversy and hand-wringing.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Ralph A Powell

Chevy did same thing with the first batch of COPO's when they recalled the production blocks and heads on the S/C engines with the LSX blocks and heads non production parts that were not installed on those cars. So you should say that Chevy started the practice.

The supercharged COPOs have only been offered with LSX blocks.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by nhramnl

And that is exactly what has caused the steady decline of Stock and Super Stock drag racing. People with ridiculous money see a new potential way to be cool, spend money and show-off; they set down their golf clubs, park their CVO Harley, write a few checks and are suddenly drag racers. They get the best car, engine, trans, etc. that money can possibly buy (and there are always "name" guys ready to take as much of their money as they can get), and the guy who actually races out of love for the sport is relegated to "poor sap" status.

Now THAT'S some funny stuff right there! True in SOME respects but funny.

[GUMP]

It could also be that some people who were too young or too broke to experience factory race cars the first time around don't want to sit and watch it pass by a second time. A lot of you guys have way more money in your motor home than others have in their factory cars. It's all about choices.......

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by GUMP

It could also be that some people who were too young or too broke to experience factory race cars the first time around don't want to sit and watch it pass by a second time. A lot of you guys have way more money in your motor home than others have in their factory cars. It's all about choices.......

Now, THAT'S some true stuff right there! Funny in SOME respects but true.

[Ralph A Powell]

The first ones built had production Blocks and Heads couldn't keep heads gaskets in them!

Originally Posted by GUMP

The supercharged COPOs have only been offered with LSX blocks.