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Old 09-25-2018, 02:27 PM   #1
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To reiterate....Never!

We race Stock because we appreciate the nuances and challenges involved with the category.

The preponderance of fans attend to watch the caricatures perform.

There were five unique models competing in Pro Stock during the last event. Exactly how is this category a better show for the general admission fans that attend?

FS/XX will be relegated to the dust bin of NHRA categories soon enough.
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Old 09-25-2018, 02:42 PM   #2
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To reiterate....Never!

We race Stock because we appreciate the nuances and challenges involved with the category.

The preponderance of fans attend to watch the caricatures perform.

There were five unique models competing in Pro Stock during the last event. Exactly how is this category a better show for the general admission fans that attend?

FS/XX will be relegated to the dust bin of NHRA categories soon enough.
I see One eight year old Pontiac, One six year old Mustang,a two year old Dodge and a non qualifying eight year old Cobalt. All of which were over a tenth slower than the thirteen Chevies. Yup, what a show. FS/XX relegated to the dust bin? There is more factory support in FS than anything short of FC and TF. It ain't going anywhere. Jim


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Old 09-25-2018, 02:55 PM   #3
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Default Re: Factory Stockers FS/XX

There certainly isn't much of anything factory or stock as it relates to these cars.

I would suggest a similar performance disparity is and will continue to manifest itself among FS/XX performance.

I see a new category on the horizon..................a 7.90 elapsed time category for this group. Maybe Jr. Pro Mod?

I can understand the appreciation for this level of performance from people seated in or standing around their Stock and Super Stock cars watching FS/XX.

The same can't be said for those that show up to watch on Saturday and Sunday.

Stock class participants can't live vicariously through this category simply because someone decided that "Stock" should be included in the nomenclature.

Maybe Factory Comp?
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Old 09-25-2018, 03:11 PM   #4
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Default Re: Factory Stockers FS/XX

I'd like to see the new Pro Stock more "Stock" than pro-cartoonish.

* Use Stock factory dimension body panels ( no jelly bean shaped stuff )

* Use Stock factory outside dimensions on the engine. Anything goes on the inside. As long as it looks like a stock block on the outside. Wt. /per cu. inch weights like Comp.Eliminator with a min. car wt.

* Let them go to Super Stock size tires

Now that is my idea of Pro Stock
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Old 09-27-2018, 08:29 PM   #5
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Nobody in the stands when they run. Just like Pro Stock.
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Nobody in the stands when they run. Just like Pro Stock.
That's , if true , unfortunate.
What I don't understand is the "separation" or cult mentality thats evident in drag racing. The "heads up" crowds that show up at those events apparently don't "translate" to NHRA class racing.
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That's , if true , unfortunate.
What I don't understand is the "separation" or cult mentality thats evident in drag racing. The "heads up" crowds that show up at those events apparently don't "translate" to NHRA class racing.
They (including Pro Stock) don't make enough noise or run fast enough to excite the average spectator. First national event I went to so I could watch old friend Mike Edwards run his Pro Stock car, (I was not racing then, but working too much) I was amazed that the stands fill up for the fuel cars, empty when they finish. Was not aware of that when racing. Go to the stands when fuel cars are not running, sit about anywhere you want.
They don't watch Comp, either. Even fewer in the stands when the .90 throttle stop cars run. I understand that one. LOL
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They (including Pro Stock) don't make enough noise or run fast enough to excite the average spectator. First national event I went to so I could watch old friend Mike Edwards run his Pro Stock car, (I was not racing then, but working too much) I was amazed that the stands fill up for the fuel cars, empty when they finish. Was not aware of that when racing. Go to the stands when fuel cars are not running, sit about anywhere you want.
They don't watch Comp, either. Even fewer in the stands when the .90 throttle stop cars run. I understand that one. LOL
At the "end of the day" as they say ( outside of the fuel circus show ) , me , you and all the guys with cars the spectators don't seem to appreciate ( the fans with little or NO hands on experience ) just don't get it . I could care less ........to me its a "party' for the racers BY the racers.
Yes , except for the .90 cars.......they dont count.........LOL
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I see One eight year old Pontiac, One six year old Mustang,a two year old Dodge and a non qualifying eight year old Cobalt. All of which were over a tenth slower than the thirteen Chevies. Yup, what a show. FS/XX relegated to the dust bin? There is more factory support in FS than anything short of FC and TF. It ain't going anywhere. Jim


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To reiterate....Never!

We race Stock because we appreciate the nuances and challenges involved with the category.

The preponderance of fans attend to watch the caricatures perform.

There were five unique models competing in Pro Stock during the last event. Exactly how is this category a better show for the general admission fans that attend?

FS/XX will be relegated to the dust bin of NHRA categories soon enough.
I'll agree that most of the fans could care less about the technology and engineering of ANY sportsman class car; but they don't watch Pro Stock either. All they want is nitro and silly Countdown drama. However, you might be surprised how well FSS is catching on among fans who care about brand diversity, factory involvement, and most importantly relate-ability because of the stock appearance. FSS is in the spirit of what PS was intended to be, and since Pro Stock has become FUBAR let's replace it!

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