360 mopar oiling

Coleydog · 10-16-2018, 04:06 PM

Since you have to use a stock pan, my guess, running out of oil in the sump. Are you using the center sump pan? If so use the Magnum rear sump pan, it will fit the 360 engine. Run more oil, keep it from foaming, air compresses, oil doesn't. Run thin oil, to heavy an oil can't get back to the pan quick enough. Just my opinions...
Mike

jmcarter · 10-16-2018, 05:47 PM

Had a Dakota pan on my Volare 360 and had no issues so agree that if using the center sump pan you’re probably running it out of oil, especially if you’re taking out oil for ET...probably turning it higher than bracket motors, what is it turning in the traps?

devo340 · 10-16-2018, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Coleydog

Since you have to use a stock pan, my guess, running out of oil in the sump. Are you using the center sump pan? If so use the Magnum rear sump pan, it will fit the 360 engine. Run more oil, keep it from foaming, air compresses, oil doesn't. Run thin oil, to heavy an oil can't get back to the pan quick enough. Just my opinions...
Mike

Using a Dakota rear sump pan.
5 quarts of oil with big oil filter.

nolongerracing · 10-16-2018, 08:12 PM

If you are using the newer R block that has the lifter valley closed off, you need to provide more drain back to the pan. Also check the oil filter mounting boss. That area is different than the stock blocks and you will need to add an extra cork gasket between the plate or adapter and the block. If you are running the filter plate, make sure it has 6 or 8 holes and not 4 as some plates do.

older racer · 10-17-2018, 12:01 AM

we use a smaller filter, ph 43, adds oil to pan. 5 1/2 quarts. total. no issues/ also,full groove mains.

CMcAllister · 10-17-2018, 12:41 PM

I've run stock crank 360s to 7300-7400 in a non-Stock application with multiple style big pans, cross-drilled crank, accu-sump, System 1 filter, big pump, 002-0025 clearance, etc. etc. and still knocked the bearings out of it. The issue is getting oil on the crank and keeping it there instead of being bled off to other places, like the left galley, and the cam and heads. You have to fix the block, specifically the oiling system, and keep the oil on the crank. Some of the stuff I've done isn't legal for Stock. Are bushed lifters and/or non-OE plumbing in the lifter valley legal?

tstickff · 10-17-2018, 01:30 PM

If you use a windage tray take it out, same with a crank scraper, and the biggest difference you can do is use the oil accumulator, i had the same issue until i used the oil accumulator.

Tim

10-16-2018, 04:06 PM	#1
Coleydog Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 569 Likes: 36 Liked 53 Times in 38 Posts	Re: 360 mopar oiling Since you have to use a stock pan, my guess, running out of oil in the sump. Are you using the center sump pan? If so use the Magnum rear sump pan, it will fit the 360 engine. Run more oil, keep it from foaming, air compresses, oil doesn't. Run thin oil, to heavy an oil can't get back to the pan quick enough. Just my opinions... Mike

10-16-2018, 05:47 PM	#2
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,291 Likes: 2,359 Liked 3,162 Times in 967 Posts	Re: 360 mopar oiling Had a Dakota pan on my Volare 360 and had no issues so agree that if using the center sump pan you’re probably running it out of oil, especially if you’re taking out oil for ET...probably turning it higher than bracket motors, what is it turning in the traps? __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

10-16-2018, 08:12 PM	#4
nolongerracing Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 173 Likes: 2 Liked 72 Times in 27 Posts	Re: 360 mopar oiling If you are using the newer R block that has the lifter valley closed off, you need to provide more drain back to the pan. Also check the oil filter mounting boss. That area is different than the stock blocks and you will need to add an extra cork gasket between the plate or adapter and the block. If you are running the filter plate, make sure it has 6 or 8 holes and not 4 as some plates do.

10-17-2018, 12:01 AM	#5
older racer Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 211 Likes: 13 Liked 64 Times in 25 Posts	Re: 360 mopar oiling we use a smaller filter, ph 43, adds oil to pan. 5 1/2 quarts. total. no issues/ also,full groove mains.

10-17-2018, 12:41 PM	#6
CMcAllister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fulton County, PA Posts: 609 Likes: 16 Liked 907 Times in 254 Posts	Re: 360 mopar oiling I've run stock crank 360s to 7300-7400 in a non-Stock application with multiple style big pans, cross-drilled crank, accu-sump, System 1 filter, big pump, 002-0025 clearance, etc. etc. and still knocked the bearings out of it. The issue is getting oil on the crank and keeping it there instead of being bled off to other places, like the left galley, and the cam and heads. You have to fix the block, specifically the oiling system, and keep the oil on the crank. Some of the stuff I've done isn't legal for Stock. Are bushed lifters and/or non-OE plumbing in the lifter valley legal?

10-17-2018, 01:30 PM	#7
tstickff Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 467 Likes: 308 Liked 560 Times in 138 Posts	Re: 360 mopar oiling If you use a windage tray take it out, same with a crank scraper, and the biggest difference you can do is use the oil accumulator, i had the same issue until i used the oil accumulator. Tim __________________ Tim Stickles

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