Points and Related Programs

[Jim Caughlin]

I am somewhat at a loss to understand what the point is that is being made here. My view was that NHRA for once was doing us a favor by letting racers pick and choose which divisionals were the most efficient and cost effective for them to travel to and accommodate their schedule. Please explain to me what the downside of allowing this is? Among other scenarios, staying for a divisional after a natl event sure beats the hell out of driving to an entirely extra event. Also, there are several racers up here in the cold and rainy North that choose to travel South early in the year to pick up races before our weather and racing season is viable. I have been racing divisionals since '86 so not exactly a newbie at this.

As a side note, I think years ago Charlie Taylor won 4 divisionals in one year, two were in division, two were out. If I remember right, they did not award him the divisional championship that year because he did not have the 3 in division requirement.

Jim Caughlin
SS 6019

[bestephen]

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin

I am somewhat at a loss to understand what the point is that is being made here. My view was that NHRA for once was doing us a favor by letting racers pick and choose which divisionals were the most efficient and cost effective for them to travel to and accommodate their schedule. Please explain to me what the downside of allowing this is? Among other scenarios, staying for a divisional after a natl event sure beats the hell out of driving to an entirely extra event. Also, there are several racers up here in the cold and rainy North that choose to travel South early in the year to pick up races before our weather and racing season is viable. I have been racing divisionals since '86 so not exactly a newbie at this.

As a side note, I think years ago Charlie Taylor won 4 divisionals in one year, two were in division, two were out. If I remember right, they did not award him the divisional championship that year because he did not have the 3 in division requirement.

Jim Caughlin
SS 6019

Jim,

No point is trying to be made, sorry! I was curious as to the rational used to structure the points system and the awarding of points for both in-division and out-of-division races. Keeping in mind the divisional series was developed for racers to race closer to home, and allowing racers to choose a division that best fits their location.


Secondly, Is it fair to award a divisional championship to a racer who only competed in three of the six divisional home races when the 2nd or 3rd place finisher competed in all six. The 2 nd 3rd finishers appear to be penalized because they work, have limited vacation, and are balancing life and racing budgets, thus minimizing their ability to travel, etc. As I noted in the original post, 40% of the divisional winners from 2018 to 2008 would have been different if only in-division point were used, that's not a small percentage.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by bestephen

No point is trying to be made......

So, why did you write this second paragraph about life being unfair?

Secondly, Is it fair to award a divisional championship to a racer who only competed in three of the six divisional home races when the 2nd or 3rd place finisher competed in all six. The 2 nd 3rd finishers appear to be penalized because they work, have limited vacation, and are balancing life and racing budgets, thus minimizing their ability to travel, etc. As I noted in the original post, 40% of the divisional winners from 2018 to 2008 would have been different if only in-division point were used, that's not a small percentage.

This logic only works if the racer lives in the middle of the division.

[bestephen]

Originally Posted by GUMP

So, why did you write this second paragraph about life being unfair?




This logic only works if the racer lives in the middle of the division.

GUMP,

I believe you mentioned "Life" in your first comment to this thread, and I don't believe life is unfair, do you? Furthermore, there has been some great points, as you mentioned, based on a racer's local with respect to the divisions, not sure if you read the entire thread.

NHRA has no control over where we live, our family situations or our finances. However, if the current layout of the divisions excludes a large number of racers from competing in a chosen division, then we should discuss a new structure?