Leaving before Tree question

Rich Biebel · 07-12-2019, 07:28 PM

Been there and done that and was NOT DQ'ed and should not have been....Lucas Oil Series race and I won the race...I flinched on the semi bye.....Tree activated and I was way red.....NOT LBTA though....

Stage under your own power....redlight or LBTA or suppose your trans brake wire falls off and car goes thru......You're not DQ'ed and get the round win and an opportunity to fix it and move on....

Cant cross center line or outer boundary.....

I Don't think you should have DQ'ed the racer on that bye.....

Jeff Stout · 07-12-2019, 07:48 PM

If driver left before starter activated tree he is out. The track is considered unsafe until starter gives the ok by activating tree. Time slip will show driver left before activation.
If starter does activate tree and you go way red and get a ticket stating starter activated tree and you left after that but before green your ok for next round.

Rich Biebel · 07-12-2019, 08:06 PM

That makes sense Jeff but it should be clearly known by racers and officials if that's the case.....

If it is true than anyone who elects to make a bye run, runs the risk of being DQ'ed if they LBTA.......and I would stage and never go to WOT on a trans brake.....

It's always going to be up to the race director.....but should be clear....

Jeff Stout · 07-12-2019, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

That makes sense Jeff but it should be clearly known by racers and officials if that's the case.....

If it is true than anyone who elects to make a bye run, runs the risk of being DQ'ed if they LBTA.......and I would stage and never go to WOT on a trans brake.....

It's always going to be up to the race director.....but should be clear....

It took me a minute to figure out LBTA.

Rich Biebel · 07-12-2019, 08:24 PM

LBTA is what's on the et slip....I didn't make it up....LOL

SST159 · 07-14-2019, 01:59 PM

Isn’t auto start activated once the bottom stage bulb comes on??

Rich Biebel · 07-14-2019, 03:54 PM

Watching D3TV and the S/C semis...

One driver broke and was pushed back
Other driver gets a broke bye.....Stages and tree seemed to take forever to go green. Driver lets go and the announcer goes silent...

Screen shows a -.368 redlight with no incrementals and no times. Does not show LBTA.....
Driver gets the win....moves to the final...vs Bogacki....

Other categories had some byes in late rounds and most just took the tree and backed out....

07-12-2019, 07:28 PM	#1
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,320 Likes: 25 Liked 555 Times in 216 Posts	Re: Leaving before Tree question Been there and done that and was NOT DQ'ed and should not have been....Lucas Oil Series race and I won the race...I flinched on the semi bye.....Tree activated and I was way red.....NOT LBTA though.... Stage under your own power....redlight or LBTA or suppose your trans brake wire falls off and car goes thru......You're not DQ'ed and get the round win and an opportunity to fix it and move on.... Cant cross center line or outer boundary..... I Don't think you should have DQ'ed the racer on that bye..... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

07-12-2019, 07:48 PM	#2
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,489 Likes: 66 Liked 706 Times in 283 Posts	Re: Leaving before Tree question If driver left before starter activated tree he is out. The track is considered unsafe until starter gives the ok by activating tree. Time slip will show driver left before activation. If starter does activate tree and you go way red and get a ticket stating starter activated tree and you left after that but before green your ok for next round.

07-12-2019, 08:06 PM	#3
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,320 Likes: 25 Liked 555 Times in 216 Posts	Re: Leaving before Tree question That makes sense Jeff but it should be clearly known by racers and officials if that's the case..... If it is true than anyone who elects to make a bye run, runs the risk of being DQ'ed if they LBTA.......and I would stage and never go to WOT on a trans brake..... It's always going to be up to the race director.....but should be clear.... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

07-12-2019, 08:24 PM	#5
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,320 Likes: 25 Liked 555 Times in 216 Posts	Re: Leaving before Tree question LBTA is what's on the et slip....I didn't make it up....LOL __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

07-14-2019, 01:59 PM	#6
SST159 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 317 Likes: 5 Liked 20 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Leaving before Tree question Isn’t auto start activated once the bottom stage bulb comes on?? __________________ Drew Wonderly SST 159

07-14-2019, 03:54 PM	#7
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,320 Likes: 25 Liked 555 Times in 216 Posts	Re: Leaving before Tree question Watching D3TV and the S/C semis... One driver broke and was pushed back Other driver gets a broke bye.....Stages and tree seemed to take forever to go green. Driver lets go and the announcer goes silent... Screen shows a -.368 redlight with no incrementals and no times. Does not show LBTA..... Driver gets the win....moves to the final...vs Bogacki.... Other categories had some byes in late rounds and most just took the tree and backed out.... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

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