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Old 11-21-2019, 11:29 AM   #1
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If you lower the indexes by 4 tenths, all the local Series type races will suffer from a smaller turnout of competitors. Not good. Currently most series honor IHRA indexes, but for how much longer? I like your plan, but it seems to be a double edged sword where the little guy gets beat up to suit the quick ones who are holding back. Seems to me this more of a Stock Elim. problem. Maybe go 2 tenths lower on the index?
Not really an issue.Local groups can do whatever they want.
We allow IHRA classes in the AZSSSA but take off the three tenths for qualifying.
Only problem might be in the Midwest, where they have their races in conjunction with an open or Divisional. Oh well ..Chasing gp's isn't cheap.
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Not really an issue.Local groups can do whatever they want.
We allow IHRA classes in the AZSSSA but take off the three tenths for qualifying.
Only problem might be in the Midwest, where they have their races in conjunction with an open or Divisional. Oh well ..Chasing gp's isn't cheap.
You are out of your mind if you think lowering the indexes 4 tenths across the board will help stock and super stock. That would most likely kill the classes. about half of the fields at the divisionals would be un-competitive and probably quit going. Better and easier to fix the problems with the AHFS or use some common sense on the under rated combos. Most of us know what they are. The classes should never be predicated on the elite of the class. That's why there is the class average.
If someone triggers the review they should be torn down and checked for legality same as the automatic 1.20 threshold. Not all of us are world beaters and still like running stock and super stock.
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Rename S/S to Bracket 1 and stock to Bracket 2. That's what it already is !!!!!!! Or combine S/S and Stock into one eliminator ! Again stock is almost there already !
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You are out of your mind if you think lowering the indexes 4 tenths across the board will help stock and super stock. That would most likely kill the classes. about half of the fields at the divisionals would be un-competitive and probably quit going. Better and easier to fix the problems with the AHFS or use some common sense on the under rated combos. Most of us know what they are. The classes should never be predicated on the elite of the class. That's why there is the class average.
If someone triggers the review they should be torn down and checked for legality same as the automatic 1.20 threshold. Not all of us are world beaters and still like running stock and super stock.
Really, Mike ?

Here's the final Q sheet from one of the slowest non-factored tracks in the country.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

How many cars are less than .4 under? How many actually belong there? I see two.
How's that gonna kill anything?
NHRA needs to bring performance back into S/SS .You can't have their own announcers complaining about 1000" runs..or people sand bagging to lower their averages all the time. It will become totally unwatchable, like the throttle stop classes.
So you think .4 is too much? Or maybe you think they should raise them up some?
Then you'd have more guys really running down the averages, so the fast guys don't get hit, ever.
How's that going to help the current problem?

BTW, better get used some index hit, anyway..Maybe not .4, this time.
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