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Old 11-25-2019, 01:58 PM   #1
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Good post, "Mr.Clean" ..Even anonymous keyboard jockeys can have a contribution here LOL
It shows that people are think and contributing in the arena of ideas.

Top four runs per half year.Throw out the fastest . Average the three remaining. Over .95 under, horsepower added.
No lowering the average for hp off. Write a letter , comparing and using examples to make your case. Glendora tech has to get off their a**es and make a judgement. It's not that hard , for anyone who's been around this for a while. I know that a few of us would do it for them..half price!
This is the best idea I have heard so far. Most heavily populated classes have so many slugs that the fast cars couldn't get hit even if they tried. This idea would work.
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Old 11-25-2019, 03:57 PM   #2
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This is the best idea I have heard so far. Most heavily populated classes have so many slugs that the fast cars couldn't get hit even if they tried. This idea would work.
This has nothing to do with the class the car runs it had to do with the horsepower factor on the car and engine combo. The AHFS does not change the index on a class except for some of the modified classes in Super Stock. It changes the HP rating of the engine in the body style that it is running. Now it could result in the car having to run a different class if it gets more power added it might have to drop down a class. If power was removed it might move up a class.

All of this has come about from the guys that have been protecting their combo for years don't want to get hit by the AHFS. They want to be able to run all out and not get hit with HP. This is just a ploy by the fast guys to get their way and not pay. None of this is going to help the class get more participation or new blood. It wont help get more heads up races. Most likely it will backfire like everything NHRA has done recently with regard to our classes. Take a look at Comp Eliminator. That class is almost non existent due to similar things that the fast guys want to do to stock and super stock.
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Old 11-25-2019, 04:11 PM   #3
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This is the best idea I have heard so far. Most heavily populated classes have so many slugs that the fast cars couldn't get hit even if they tried. This idea would work.
Exactly, Jim.
I wish I could take credit for this one but it was sent to me from another racer.
Not picking on anyone specific here, but this is an LS1 combo that's 40 hp less in this body style.. All those strikes ,and no HP.
This illustrates one of the problems with this system.

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Old 11-26-2019, 09:24 AM   #4
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Exactly, Jim.
I wish I could take credit for this one but it was sent to me from another racer.
Not picking on anyone specific here, but this is an LS1 combo that's 40 hp less in this body style.. All those strikes ,and no HP.
This illustrates one of the problems with this system.

I like this idea. Use the fastest time of each car at a event as the data
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Exactly, Jim.
I wish I could take credit for this one but it was sent to me from another racer.
Not picking on anyone specific here, but this is an LS1 combo that's 40 hp less in this body style.. All those strikes ,and no HP.
This illustrates one of the problems with this system.

That's as about as obvious as it gets when it comes to a combo that's way under factored.
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Not saying mine needs hp off,even though it has been beat on for 50 yrs,there are some fast cars with my combo.I can not afford the "good" stuff and still be able to go racing,it's one or the other and I chose to go racing with my money.I just do not understand what will help things by lowering the indexes,the fast guys will still be the fast guys...Victor Penrod
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Old 11-26-2019, 12:14 PM   #7
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How come you pick on the 302 FFFords? It's all I can aFFFord and Im having a blast. Entry level and dont cost an arm and a leg to build. Geez
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Old 11-26-2019, 01:48 PM   #8
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For the racers that want no Heads Up Racing what's wrong with you ?? I have lost a lot of heads up races but tried hard to go faster. Its part of class racing, leave it a lone !!!!!
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Old 11-26-2019, 02:57 PM   #9
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What is the end game here.What are we trying to accomplish by changing the system.
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Old 11-27-2019, 12:00 PM   #10
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Not saying mine needs hp off,even though it has been beat on for 50 yrs,there are some fast cars with my combo.I can not afford the "good" stuff and still be able to go racing,it's one or the other and I chose to go racing with my money.I just do not understand what will help things by lowering the indexes,the fast guys will still be the fast guys...Victor Penrod
Vic, you're kidding me right? You just won the World Championship in SS and you're saying you can't afford the good stuff?? You're the Champ! Go get some of the good stuff for free!! Oh, wait, nobody gives anything away anymore.

I'm with you on not lowering the indexes though. I really don't see the point in that!

Congrats, by the way!!
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