NHRA 2020 Rule Amendment SS Intakes???

[SSDiv6]

One interesting fact is that as discussed earlier, one of the first users of intake manifold adapters in the 1970's was Ed Hamburger on his Mopar 340 and 360 Super Stock engines. The adapter allowed Ed to use a SBC intake. Therefore, since the 1970's NHRA has been allowing spacers and adapters in Super Stock class.

As a matter of fact the Ed Hamburger and Bruce Bachelder (former NHRA Tech Rep) Mopar used the adapter with the SBC intake until Offenhauser came out with the SBM Port-O-Sonic intake.

[dannyboy]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

One interesting fact is that as discussed earlier, one of the first users of intake manifold adapters in the 1970's was Ed Hamburger on his Mopar 340 and 360 Super Stock engines. The adapter allowed Ed to use a SBC intake. Therefore, since the 1970's NHRA has been allowing spacers and adapters in Super Stock class.

As a matter of fact the Ed Hamburger and Bruce Bachelder (former NHRA Tech Rep) Mopar used the adapter with the SBC intake until Offenhauser came out with the SBM Port-O-Sonic intake.

I beg to differ with you, We, Brian Bachelder, Bruce Bachelder, and myself, Dan Chipman campaigned the 74 Duster, 71 Duster and 72 Demon with Ed's engines and parts and set many records and class wins without any Chevrolet Manifolds. Ed flew me to the world finals when he ran the Duster with Carlos Lawrence to test manifolds and none of them were Chevy's. He may of tried them on the W-2 heads in Super Modified.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by dannyboy

I beg to differ with you, We, Brian Bachelder, Bruce Bachelder, and myself, Dan Chipman campaigned the 74 Duster, 71 Duster and 72 Demon with Ed's engines and parts and set many records and class wins without any Chevrolet Manifolds. Ed flew me to the world finals when he ran the Duster with Carlos Lawrence to test manifolds and none of them were Chevy's. He may of tried them on the W-2 heads in Super Modified.

My apologies, my comments were based on information i was given many years ago when i crewed a a few Mopars that had Ed's engines with the Chevy intake during the early 1970's.

[ron morehead]

I'm gonna jump in on this one since there are UNINFORMED creatures out there. Our Heads that are in question are roughly 2-2 1/2 years old its the Gen 3 stuff. If these modifications are illegal why did it take this long for them to say this when they NHRA saw this configuration Long before Indy this year. If You so called racers think that we are .15 ahead of everyone except Zavala is all in the head design you need to quit right now because you have no work Ethic. The individuals that are the SO Called engine builders that are complaining are more interested in racing instead of being in the shop, on the Dyno or at the test sessions working with there customers instead they are promising there customers that this will work or that will work and all the customers are doing is lining their engine builders pockets. NHRA should have warned or stopped this design 2 years ago the first time they saw this JUST like the did to the HEMI design. Stop whining and get to work.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by ron morehead

I'm gonna jump in on this one since there are UNINFORMED creatures out there. Our Heads that are in question are roughly 2-2 1/2 years old its the Gen 3 stuff. If these modifications are illegal why did it take this long for them to say this when they NHRA saw this configuration Long before Indy this year. If You so called racers think that we are .15 ahead of everyone except Zavala is all in the head design you need to quit right now because you have no work Ethic. The individuals that are the SO Called engine builders that are complaining are more interested in racing instead of being in the shop, on the Dyno or at the test sessions working with there customers instead they are promising there customers that this will work or that will work and all the customers are doing is lining their engine builders pockets. NHRA should have warned or stopped this design 2 years ago the first time they saw this JUST like the did to the HEMI design. Stop whining and get to work.

Well said!

[Bob Smith]

[QUOTE== NHRA should have warned or stopped this design 2 years ago the first time they saw this JUST like the did to the HEMI design. .[/QUOTE]

Well said Ron, there is no substitution for hard work!
But why should it have been stopped if it is legal. Or is it not really legal? This makes it sound like the rule was broken and NHRA should have said something instead of the engine builders and racers just not breaking the rule in the first place.

[Kevin Panzino]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

Well said Ron, there is no substitution for hard work!
But why should it have been stopped if it is legal. Or is it not really legal? This makes it sound like the rule was broken and NHRA should have said something instead of the engine builders and racers just not breaking the rule in the first place.

Bob. I don’t understand what you are trying to infer. Please explain what RULE folks “were breaking in the first place?” Chapter and verse from rulebook or blueprint specs, please.

[Bob Smith]

Originally Posted by Kevin Panzino

Bob. I don’t understand what you are trying to infer. Please explain what RULE folks “were breaking in the first place?” Chapter and verse from rulebook or blueprint specs, please.

Kevin see first page posts. That is also what I am asking. For NHRA to make changes for 2020 or 2021 they must have to do with the rules, not just conversation pieces for the racers. It is confusing as to what modifications can now be made to the heads.

[ron morehead]

Bob
They are LEGAL. If NHRA did not like what they saw over 2 years ago they should have said something then and stopped this modification. Instead they allowed more customers to have this modification done to their heads, now because they or Some Engine builders do not like this they will change a rule to suit them and put the financial burden back on the customers that made these changes.

[Spyphish]

Nothing wrong with the Hemi head except it's very heavy. Phish