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Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
2015
At the Winter Nats, Peter is #22. Keri & Art are on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Carquest Nats, Don K. was #11 & Peter was #12. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #6 @ -.851. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Summit Nats, Don K. was #4 @ -.944. Peter & Leo are on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Don K. was #1 @ -.990. Leo & Keri were on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Spring Nats, J.B. Clegg ran a 9.917 in his SD455 powered '74 stick Bird. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 5-1, Carroll was #5 @ -.872. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Kansas Nats, Bill Rink was #4 @ - 1.032. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Leo was #14 @ -.709. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At Fontana, Leo was #21 & Keri was #29. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At Englishtown, I think Sam Biondo was driving the Hatari Bird. #19 @ -.817. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 3-3, Greg Meyer was #13 @ -.863. Bill Rink was #32. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the New England Nats, Vic Santos was #1 @ -.996. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 4-2, Robert Cruzen was #1, @ -.944. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #1 @ - 1.052. Scott Burton also got his GT/GA '91 Bird going. He was #7 @ -.728. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 1-3, Vic Santos was #2 @ - 1.010. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 6-3, Carrol was #1 @ -.987, and got a 3rd place finish. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop That takes us thru June. Last edited by oldskool; 01-19-2020 at 07:49 AM. |
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Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
2015 contd.
At Norwalk, Bill Rink was #24 @ -.761. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Greg Meyer was #17 @ -.829. Bill Rink was #18 @ -.823. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #1 @ - 1.017. Brad was driving the Burton GT Bird. #11. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #3 @ -.987. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 3-5, Greg Meyer was #14 @ -.847. Mike Morgan was then running what I assume is the former Sal Piacentini '77 Bird. #16 @ -.845. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 5-4, Bill Rink was #1 @ - 1.042. carroll was #6 @ -.878. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 1-6, Sam Biondo was #23 @ -.785. John Agneta was #32 @ -.718, in what I was told was Johnny Duncan's car. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Summit Nats, Greg Meyer was #3 @ -.969. Bill Rink was #12 @ -.823. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.974. Carroll was #8 @ -.950. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-5, Carroll was #2 @ -.965. Brad Burton was #11 @ -.743. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-6, Carroll was #1 @ -.970. Brad was lower on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 4-6, Robert Cruzen was #4 @ -.898. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Toyota Nats, Robert Cruzen was #5 @ - 1.122. brad & Keri were lower on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Robert was #25 @ -.898. Brad was #26 @ -.885. Leo was #36 @ -.844. Keri was also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Robert was #5 @ - 1.009. Leo, Art, & Keri are lower on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop That wraps up 2015. Still several quick Pontiacs out there. Gotta be a good bracket racer, nowadays, to win Stock & SS races, because there are just not that many same class, heads-up races. Gotta cut consistently good lights & run consistent ET's. But, I don't have to tell you guys that. I like to check out the RT's of the guys who consistently make it to the final rounds. Can't often win a round, with a slow light, unless the other guy really messes up. But, the dial-your-own deal is what keeps most guys racing Stock/SS/brackets. If the quickest car always won, only the very richest racers would win. They'd buy the best parts & hire the best people, to produce the quickest car. I reckin that's the basic difference between Stock/SS and the Pro classes. I've heard lots of guys say how much they don't like breakout racing. They seem to feel macho when they say they only do heads-up racing. Problem with that is that MOST of 'em don't have enuff money to build a winning heads-up car. Just thinkin out loud. Please forgive. Last edited by oldskool; 01-19-2020 at 10:25 AM. |
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Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
2016
At the Winter Nats, Leo was #26 @ -.781. Brad Burton was #37, Art was #51. Keri was #53. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Carquest Nats, Leo was #25 @ -.760. Don K. was #33. Brad was #38. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 4-1, J.B. ripped off a 9.739 in his SD455 stick Bird, to get #29 @ -.811. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #8 @ -.862. Brad was #20 @ -.773. Leo was #23 @ -.750. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Don K. was #5 @ -.915. Brad was #17 @ -.804. Keri was #44. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Gators, Sam Biondo was #31 @ -.728. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Spring Vegas race, Don K, was #11 @ -.943. Brad was #28 @ -.777. Leo was #38. Keri was #53. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 4-2, J. B. was #24 @ -.797. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Spring Nats, J.B. was #16 @ -.734. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 6-1, Brad was #6 @ -.842. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 3-1, Mike Morgan was #34 @ -.676. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Kansas Nats, Robert was #1 @ - 1.016. Scott was #23 @ -.760. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 4-3, J.B. was #19 @ -.773. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Don K. was #5 @ -.849. Leo was #17 @ -.655. Keri was #26. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop Leo got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 3-2, Mike Morgan was #27 @ -.814. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 1-2, Sam Biondo was #13 @ -.818. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Jegs Sports Nats, Greg Meyer was #12 @ -.962. Scott was #36 @ -.890. Monte Howard was #72 @ -.740. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the New England Nats, Dean Ribeiro was #4 @ - 1.012. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS, Carroll was #7 @ -.914. Scott was #11 @ -.896. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 3-3, Greg Meyer was #4 @ -.896. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 5-2, Scott was #2 @ -.994. Carroll was #3 @ -.979. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Summer Nats, Sam Biondo was #20 @ -.930. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop That gets us thru June. Last edited by oldskool; 01-19-2020 at 06:07 PM. |
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At the Route 66 Nats, Greg Meyer was #5 @ -.915. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #5 @ -.815. Brad was #15. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #2 @ -.980. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-4, Leo was #8 @ -.823. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Sonoma Nats, Leo was #15 @ -.720. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #12 @ -.796. Robert Cruzen was #18 @ -.715. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop Robert made the semi, where, for whatever reason, cut a real slow light. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop LOS 5-4 was a doubleheader race, behind 5-3. Carroll & Robert were #12 & #24 this time. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 5-5, Greg was #5 @ -.782. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Lucas Oil Nats, Greg was #2 @ -.878. Bill Rink was #6 @ -.797. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 1-6, John Agneta was #17 @ -.781. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Carroll was #5 @ -.981. Greg was #11 @ -.906. Robert was #18 @ -.767. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 6-6, Leo was #5 @ -.758. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Carolina Nats, Peter was #30 @ -.694, & won the race !  https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Midwest Nats, Mike Morgan was #8 @ -.961. Greg was #20 @ -.872. Bill Rink was #23 @ -.843. Looks like Peter had problems. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-5, Don K. was #3 @ -.854. Carroll was #4 @ -.836. Leo was #17 @ -.596. Looks like Brad had problems in qualifying. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop LOS 7-6 was the 2nd race of a doubleheader. Carroll was #2 @ -.970. Brad was #14 @ -.769. Don K. was #29. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Dodge Nats, Sam Biondo was #12 @ -.779. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 4-6, Robert was #13 @ -.836, & got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-2 make-up race, Leo got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Robert was #8 @ -.933, Don K. was #13 @ -.890. Keri was #29 @ -.811. Scott was #45 @ -.697. Leo was #51 @ -.629. Larry Maxwell was #90. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Brad was #22 @ -.811. Keri was #26 @ -.736. Leo was #31 @ -.706. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop That's a wrap for 2016. As always, info about additional Pontiac V8 powered wins, not covered here, is welcome. Still several quick Pontiacs. In today's competitive racing, it takes exceptionally good drivers to go rounds & win races. That's why the really good drivers have lots of div & nat event wins, during their racing career. I think this is the 1st time Larry Maxwell's GT car has turned up on a list I posted. To me, it's a very interesting build. The car is a '68 Bird. Looks like it could be a Stocker. And, it was apparently built to run just a hair under it's index. Has a Pontiac 350 for power. Just presumption on my part, but I assume that the 350 is all a planned part of the build, so that a big-tire set-up won't be needed. Yes, I know that Bill Rink & Mike Morgan are going quick with Pontiac 350's. But, Larry's 350 build is different. Dan Fletcher has proven, beyond any shadow of doubt, that you can win races without being the quickest car in your class. On almost every list I've seen him on, which is now quite a large number, he is very near the bottom, just a safe distance below his index. But, who knows, Larry may be planning a quicker set-up, at some point. Last edited by oldskool; 01-20-2020 at 12:05 AM. |
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2017
At the Winter Nats, Leo was #12 @ -.829. Keri was #21 @ -.741. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the AZ Nats, Don K. was #3 @ -.935. Brad was #17 @ -.838. Leo was #25 @ -.769. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #3 @ -.902. Brad was #10 @ -.825. Leo was #29 @ -.675. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 4-1, J.B. was #21 @ -.812. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Vegas Spring race. Robert was #1 @ - 1.094. Don K. was #3 @ -.908. Brad was #6 @ -.876. Leo was #18 @ -.733. Keri was #39. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop Brad made it to the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Robert was #4 @ -.962. Don K. was #6 @ -.925. Brad was #14 @ -.857. Leo was #25 @ -.776. Keri was #49. Larry was #65. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Spring Nats, J.B. was #20 @ -.671. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the 4-Wide Nats, Peter was #28 @ -.693, & won the race ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 4-3, J.B. was #19 @ -.671. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 6-1, Brad was #6 @ -.825. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At Topeka, Robert was #4 @ -.875. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-3 Leo was #14 @ -.660. Keri was #31. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 1-2, Bill Kennedy was #8 @ -.898. I think he was driving the former Vic Santos car. Think he had his '83 305 Bird for sale, after he bought the Santos Bird, and actually raced both for a short period. But, I'm sure some of ya'll know more about that than I do. Anyhow, John Agneta was #64 at this race. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-1, Robert was #2 @ -.981. Carroll was #3 @ -.902. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At Englishtown, Bill Kennedy was #3 @ -.987. Sam Biondo was #13 @ -.883. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-2, Robert was #1 @ -.958. Carroll was #2 @ -.923. Scott was #6 @ -.612. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 4-4, Robert was #5 @ -.923. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop That's it thru June. Still a few Pontiacs qualifying at or very near the top of the list. Last edited by oldskool; 01-20-2020 at 04:41 AM. |
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@ LOS 1-3, Bill Kennedy was #7 @ -.816. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Brad was #12 @ -.843. Greg was #14 @ -.833. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #5 @ -.905. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-4, Brad was #12 @ -.842. Leo was #13 @ -.819. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop Brad got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Sonoma Nats, Brad was #2 @ -.969. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #8 @ -.815. Robert was #20 @ -.715. Jack Good was #38 @ -.510. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-4, Robert was #5 @ -.892. Carroll was #13 @ -.842. Jack Good was #35 @ -.550. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 3-5, Mike Morgan was #9 @ -.880. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 3-6, Mike Morgan was #34 @ -.700. Jack Good was #61. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Northwest Nats, Brad was #3 @ -.893. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop He got 3rd. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-5, Bill was #3 @ -.978. Greg was #12 @ -.690. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Lucas Oil Nats, Bill Rink was #2 @ -.954. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 6-5, Brad was #9 @ -.864. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 1-6, John Agneta was #27 @ -.702. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 3-7, Bill Rink was #3 @ - 1.082. Don K. was #23 @ -.912. Jack Good was #61 @ -.700. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Robert was #3 @ -.932. Greg was #6 @ -.918. Carroll was #11 @ -.852. Bill Rink was #19 @ -.788. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-5 Brad was #4 @ -.861. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Dodge Nats, Sam Biondo was #18 @ -.731. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Midwest Nats, Mike Morgan was #17 @ -.912. Bill Rink was #21 @ -.895. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Texas Fall Nats, J.B. was #28 @ -.735. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 3-4, Greg was #9 @ -.957. And, I think Todd Frantz now had a 428 powered Cobalt. He was #13 @ -.902. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Toyota Nats, Robert was #7 @ - 1.033. Leo was #33 @ -.780. Carroll was #38 @ -.769. Keri was #53 @ -.655. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 2-7, Wilbert Thornton was #30 @ -.731. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Brad was #32 @ -.827. Robert was #35 @ -.806. Leo was #46 @ -.719. Larry Maxwell was #80. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Robert was #29 @ -.773. Leo was #40 @ -.638. Keri was number #51, with a 9.956. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop And Robert ended the season with a big win at Pomona ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop Last edited by oldskool; 01-20-2020 at 02:43 PM. |
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For those who don't like lots of race results, bear with me. Only 2 seasons left, and we'll be caught up. I've really enjoyed lookin at all these results. Have learned some things I didn't know. At the Winter Nats, Leo was #8 @ -.938. Keri was #49. Lindy Lindholm ran his '74 Bird Stocker, in SS at thie race. Was #61. There are lots of today's Stockers that are quick enuff to run under their SS index. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the AZ Nats, Leo was #13 @ -.845. Brad was number 42. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 4-1, J.B. was still running 9.70's with the '74 SD455 stick Bird @ #18. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 2-2, Bill Kennedy was #22 @ -.859. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Gators, Bill K. was #16 @ -.973. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 4-2, J.B. had dropped the SD455 Bird into the 9.60's, for #13 @ -.908. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Vegas Spring race, Carroll was #22 @ -.782. Leo was #23 @ -.780. Brad was #34 @ -.691. Larry was #58. Lindy was #59. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop Brad got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Spring Nats, J.B. was #12 @ -.924. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Leo was #13 @ -.868. Brad was #25 @ -.751. Larry was #55. Lindy was #57. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 1-1, Bill K, was #8 @ - 1.004. Wilbert Thornton was #34 @ -.775. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Leo was #12 @ -.712. Lindy was #40. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At Topeka, Robert was #3 @ -.878. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Jegs Sports Nats, Don K. was #28 @ -.841. Mike Morgan was #33 @ -.832. Bill Rink was #36 @ -.826. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 1-2, Bill K. was #9 @ -.818. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Greg was #17 @ -.810. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 4-5, Robert was #2 @ -.937. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 5-1, Robert was #2 @ -.875. Scott was #7 @ -.706. Carroll was #9 @ -.629. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop Robert got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS, Bill K. was #12 @ -.779. Peter was #32 @ -.554. John Agneta is also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop That takes us thru June. For any who don't know, here was Lindy's Stocker Bird, which he ran a few times in SS, & was latter stolen. Last edited by oldskool; 01-20-2020 at 04:47 PM. |
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Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
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If this info is correct, looks like he gets 6 more hp, in GT/ auto trans, than you have in a '74 Vent. Don't know how NHRA gives the same engine a different hp factor, depending on which body it's in or whether there is a manual or auto trans behind it. But hey, you current racers know a LOT more about all that than me.  http://www.classracerinfo.com/Engine...8&MAKE=Pontiac Assuming by the times he's running that he doesn't have an all-out Parsons & Meyers Super Stock 350. Or does he ? Just ASSUMING that he built the car, on purpose, to run a safe distance below his index, and maintain the rest of the car in near Stock Elim form. But, if this assumption is NOT correct, I'd like to have that info. Just looked up some times run by the '74 GTO Stocker driven by Brad Koivisto. It ran some 11.20's. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r=100#indextop So, a strong Stock legal '74 350 engine will provide enuff power to run under the GT index. Don't need a huge roller cam & alum intake. So, it makes perfect sense that a good 350 build, with a bigger than Stock legal, flat tappet or small roller cam should run under the GT index. There are obviously 400, 428, & 455 engines which can also be built to run under their GT index. But, I figure the 350 will require a bit less traction, to hook it up. So, if building a low budget Pontiac powered GT car, the 350 seems like a good choice. And, I've already mentioned the fact that some of the 400 powered Stockers have run SS, at a few races, & ran under their index. For example: The SS/IA index is 10.70. There are some of the 1st gen Bird Stockers, which will fit that class, which can run under that index, in Stock legal form. Just all food for thought. If somebody wants to get into SS racing, but wants to do it on a lower budget than building or buying an all-out, big tire SS car, there are ways to do it, with Pontiac power. Last edited by oldskool; 01-24-2020 at 04:05 AM. |
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Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
I'd love for somebody to start a low budget Pontiac powered GT build thread on this site. Hey, it wouldn't be a "dime rocket". But I think it could be done for a reasonable price. Could also double as a bracket car, for those who don't live close to a lot of tracks that run SS, & don't have the funds for long hauls. But, I know that lots of guys here don't like bracket racing. So, that's all I'll say about that.
If I had to take a guess as to what the cheapest Pontiac Body Stocker roller might be, I'd have to say it would probably be a 3rd gen Bird. When I was gonna build a Pontiac powered bracket car, back in 2007, there were lots of 3rd gen Birds around, cheap. I bought several. Max price was $500. So, I figure it was the same all over the country. That's why I assume there were lots of Stockers built, using 3rd gen Bird bodies. So, that means that there should be some decent 3rd gen Stocker rollers out there, for sale, which would work good as a 350 Pontiac powered GT car. Glanced thru the thread that's going now, where guys are talkin about all the cars they have, or know of, that are not being used. There are occasionally guys come on here asking about a car to buy. Maybe that would be a good way to help get somebody started in class racing. They could start off with a decent Stocker roller, which mostly just needs a trans & engine. As you guys well know, there are some body styles that have had all the possible combos wrung out, & can no longer be competitive, on a level many insist on. One of these cars might make a good candidate for a low budget, just-under-the-index, Pontiac powered build. I'd prefer a Pontiac body, such as a Bird or Ventura. But, the little 428 powered Cobalts have proven that a Pontiac engine will power a Chevy body just as good as it will a Pontiac body. The engine don't care what brand name is on the car. But, it has to be a GM body, which will work with a Pontiac V8 engine, & be NHRA SS legal. I know from past experience that LOTS of Chevy guys cringe at even the thought of a Pontiac engine in a Chevy. But hey, for you guys, we can consider an Olds or Buick body. I assume there may be some Olds & Buick X-bodies out there somewhere. Anyhow there should be some 70's GM X-bodies, as well as GM 2nd & 3rd gen F-bodies out there, that are just settin around gathering dust & rust. Anybody here know of one that would work, which might help some new guy get started with a cheap Pontiac powered GT car ? A '77 350 or 400 Pontiac engine would probably be my choice, because, the 6X heads required are still plentiful & fairly cheap. These engines have been very competitive, in stock & SS, for a long time. So, building one to just barely run under, in hot weather, shouldn't break the bank. If anybody has a good roller prospect for such a project, which you'll sell for a reasonable price, post that info. Then I'll go on some of the Pontiac sites & see if I can find a guy who is willing to give this thing a shot. There are lots of bracket racers who are spending enuff on bracket racing, so that they could build a low budget GT car for the same money, if they just knew how. Guys here with the know-how could provide needed info on the build thread, & help locate some decent used parts, that will be needed. Hey it would be sorta like a forum project. From what I've read, a lot of members here are even older than me & no longer race, themselves. Hey, this could be a way to help pass on some of what you learned, & maybe help a younger guy get into SS racing. What do ya'll think ? Anybody interested ?  I remember when I 1st found this site, how much I enjoyed following Brent Flynn's low budget Stocker build. Maybe a low budget Pontiac powered GT build would also generate some interest. I don't have the knowledge & experience most of you guys have. But, I'll definitely do all I can to help with info, parts round-up, etc. Let's do it !
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