1.20 under at Belle Rose

[Mepprecht]

Originally Posted by James Perrone

Sean I’m talking about Indy. The Big Go.
Nobody lays down at Indy.
It’s the only race where every soft combo goes and shows off
because they can get away with a 1.20 under hit.
It would make the ahfs work like it should

No he cant qualify at any NHRA event. My 265 runs faster then his pure stocker.

[James Perrone]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Wow you just hate the facts..
Only Stones being throw are from you..and you are not a very good shot!
But I am good tossing them back....
Will improve that scowl you have on your face !

FWIW I have raced my Impala since 2000.
Some of us have real jobs..and do what you can.

As for racing ..I can attend SS/S Assoc meet anywhere on the planet.
AND YES I can qualify for a Sanctioned NHRA Race in Canada.
As they will accept Pure Stockers and other IHRA cars.

So go cry another river Perrone'

Like I said before
I take my money and spend it where my business is wanted.
AND if that just burns you up I can toss in some hot sauce !

Ok Mr Irrelevant
I’m your huckleberry at every East Coast Race. So you won’t miss me.
Ok.? Still can’t answer the question.
What did you spend on that pure stocker. .?
And can you race NHRA. ? That’s ok. You can always watch me.
Me I’m just some broke *** tow truck driver.
I live off my wife’s salary. She didn’t give me any $$$ so I could race Gainesville
I may start a Go Fund page. Poor me.

[Paul Wong]

Originally Posted by rboyle

I agree, there should be no mineshaft at all and no factored tracks.

evidently you have never raced in sub 25 barometer.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by rboyle

I agree, there should be no mineshaft at all and no factored tracks.

Rich, obviously you have never ventured out west . Does DENVER ring a bell ?......

[Jared Jordan]

[QUOTE=Dan Fahey;

All about the money.

Dan[/QUOTE]

Truest thing you’ve said yet. This is an expensive hobby (sport?). Always has been, always will be. Plenty of guys that can’t and don’t spend the $$ to be -1.20. The difference between them and others is the amount of whining about it most of them don’t do.

[rboyle]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Rich, obviously you have never ventured out west . Does DENVER ring a bell ?......

No I never raced in Denver. My point is being missed by some though. What's the difference if number 1 qualifier at Denver is -.60 in Stock or -1.12 under in Gainesville? The factoring is to make people feel better about their performance. It's a placebo. I also feel the same way about a mineshaft condition.
Lets say 60 car field and number 1 is -1.19 but only 30 cars are -.851 and you've been laying back. Your car can go -.90 but the number 1 qualifier is a guy or combo you don't like. You control the fate of it being a mineshaft. Is that okay?

[KRatcliff]

Originally Posted by rboyle

No I never raced in Denver. My point is being missed by some though. What's the difference if number 1 qualifier at Denver is -.60 in Stock or -1.12 under in Gainesville? The factoring is to make people feel better about their performance. It's a placebo. I also feel the same way about a mineshaft condition.
Lets say 60 car field and number 1 is -1.19 but only 30 cars are -.851 and you've been laying back. Your car can go -.90 but the number 1 qualifier is a guy or combo you don't like. You control the fate of it being a mineshaft. Is that okay?

I don't think it is about the #1 qualifiers, it would be the ones at the bottom of the sheet that may not be able to run the index if the tracks weren't factored. Why shut them out?

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Rich, obviously you have never ventured out west . Does DENVER ring a bell ?......

First trip there will humble you! Our (Div 4) Amarillo track was hard in my ego. LOL

[rboyle]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

First trip there will humble you! Our (Div 4) Amarillo track was hard in my ego. LOL

Zero ego here. Also, never really considered the not able to run the index factor, which is a very valid point! Division 1 BTW doesn't run in very good air most of the time. But not really looking for a pissing contest.
My perspective is that Stock, SS & Comp are all performance based classes at least supposed to be. Performance gains are just the nature of the sport. If we weren't all chasing that carrot we'd still be running 11.70's in A/SA trim. It sucks when someone hits your combo. No doubt. But we all aspire to be able to be that person at some time or another. As long as they do it legally, then so be it.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Jared Jordan

Truest thing you’ve said yet. This is an expensive hobby (sport?). Always has been, always will be. Plenty of guys that can’t and don’t spend the $$ to be -1.20. The difference between them and others is the amount of whining about it most of them don’t do.

I am not whining...Perone’ is !
When you work a combination for 40 or more years.
You are spending money every year to chase the Rabbit.
The luck of NHRA rating many cars do run 1.20 on Mineshaft day.
Unless gifted with a Soft index.
My Car has run 1.27 under working to go 1.40.

Improved performance every year since buying the car new..1995!
it is a learning game. Every year more money. Document each step.
Wear and tear needed new interior and paint job.
Including being hit several time by butt head drivers..

Ran brackets for years and got well under the G/PS index
Wanted to run stock bad and drove to all the IHRA meets.
Changed all 4 tires and raced.
Reversed process and headed home.

My challenge; use a Pure Stocker cam to run K/L/M index.
Only have so much time..money has not been a big issue.
When the car is down I cannot race..
So like most, every improvement came out of pocket.
Not every change worked...had to recruit help $$.
Nothing is for free in racing .. and can be ego bruising..

Mike Eppretch. You have a great car..I know who built the bones..
You bought it from Bryan Herter who bought it from Bernie Steinke.
Our Impala group knows it as Snowflake...use to run deep 10’s.

You car is lighter than mine as a P/SA car.
Think your best is 12.27. Mine is 12.47 so we are not off by much.
Figuring there is only 2 tenths left in mine and no more.
Unless doing a Curtis Turner NASCAR rebuild.

Btw you are invited to the ECIRS meet at Cecil on March 28.
All of us would love to see your car back.
Our 4 door class racing is fun..check us out on Facebook.
There will be some Heads Up racing too.
Guarantee you will be asked a ton of questions...!

Dan