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Old 06-04-2020, 05:17 PM   #1
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Guys, the reality of the situation is that STK & SS Class Run-offs, although loved by us and we all want them to take place, are not feasible given the current schedule. Not only has NHRA made a hard decision to chop off the Wednesday and Monday from the event, they have also added S/ST(since they cannot run in Chicago), All-Stars(since they cannot run in Chicago) and also, I believe, the ProMod Shootout from Sonoma? All we can hope and encourage NHRA to do this year, is award Class Victories/Wally's to the fastest qualified car in the class/combo. It is not a perfect situation; however still allows us to run our stuff hard and see where we are at in the pack. I have done the math, did not add in that oil downs and weather could be a factor, and the answer is that class runoffs cannot be attained. Please continue to talk your SRAC Representatives to encourage NHRA to have Class Wally's awarded to fastest cars in class.
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Old 06-04-2020, 05:39 PM   #2
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The reality is NHRA is notorious for trying to fill 10 gallons in a 5 gallon jug. With all the goings on in the world I will .be HAPPY to just race and see my buds...
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Guys, the reality of the situation is that STK & SS Class Run-offs, although loved by us and we all want them to take place, are not feasible given the current schedule. Not only has NHRA made a hard decision to chop off the Wednesday and Monday from the event, they have also added S/ST(since they cannot run in Chicago), All-Stars(since they cannot run in Chicago) and also, I believe, the ProMod Shootout from Sonoma? All we can hope and encourage NHRA to do this year, is award Class Victories/Wally's to the fastest qualified car in the class/combo. It is not a perfect situation; however still allows us to run our stuff hard and see where we are at in the pack. I have done the math, did not add in that oil downs and weather could be a factor, and the answer is that class runoffs cannot be attained. Please continue to talk your SRAC Representatives to encourage NHRA to have Class Wally's awarded to fastest cars in class.
I agree that there just isn't time for actual class eliminations when they eliminated two days and added categories like the All Stars, but I don't like setting the precedent of awarding class to the fastest qualifier. I realize this wouldn't be the first time it has happened, but that is generally due to weather or something that was an unanticipated change in the schedule.

Establishing that the class winner as the fastest qualifier completely removes the red light factor or driver impact on the race. We all know that the fastest car isn't a lock on winning class, but doing it this way takes a lot away from the honor of winning class in my opinion.

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I agree that there just isn't time for actual class eliminations when they eliminated two days and added categories like the All Stars, but I don't like setting the precedent of awarding class to the fastest qualifier. I realize this wouldn't be the first time it has happened, but that is generally due to weather or something that was an unanticipated change in the schedule.

Establishing that the class winner as the fastest qualifier completely removes the red light factor or driver impact on the race. We all know that the fastest car isn't a lock on winning class, but doing it this way takes a lot away from the honor of winning class in my opinion.

I completely agree with your opinion; however if they do away with STK/SS "Class" all together, then the entry #'s for STK & SS will dramatically decrease. For this year and given the current situation/schedule, I believe its the best case scenario. IMHO
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Well, it has been answered.

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...860&zoneid=175

Super Stock and Stock Class Eliminations Notice
Due to the restructuring of the Mello Yello Drag Racing Series for 2020, Stock and Super Stock Class Eliminations will not take place at the US Nationals. We will award the quickest car in each class (with more than 1 competitor) the Class Trophy. For those classes with single competitors, we will create the Combos and award the quickest competitor in each Combo the Class Trophy. Contingency Awards will be awarded as well.

Jeg’s Sportsnationals –

Class Eliminations will be held (weather/time permitting) at the Columbus Jeg’s Sportsnationals for Stock and Super Stock.

Class Eliminations will NOT be contested at the New England Jeg’s Sportsnationals event.
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Well, it has been answered.

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...860&zoneid=175

Super Stock and Stock Class Eliminations Notice
Due to the restructuring of the Mello Yello Drag Racing Series for 2020, Stock and Super Stock Class Eliminations will not take place at the US Nationals. We will award the quickest car in each class (with more than 1 competitor) the Class Trophy. For those classes with single competitors, we will create the Combos and award the quickest competitor in each Combo the Class Trophy. Contingency Awards will be awarded as well.

Jeg’s Sportsnationals –

Class Eliminations will be held (weather/time permitting) at the Columbus Jeg’s Sportsnationals for Stock and Super Stock.

Class Eliminations will NOT be contested at the New England Jeg’s Sportsnationals event.
When they answered me on the Live Video one has to guess Phil did not have all the details. Phil is a pretty straight up guy in my experience, so he answered the best that he could at the time.
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When they answered me on the Live Video one has to guess Phil did not have all the details. Phil is a pretty straight up guy in my experience, so he answered the best that he could at the time.
But Phil did have the scheduled number of days that would be contested at Indy along with the info about the extra categories such as the Allstars. I don't see how someone on the inside couldn't calculate what we could see from the outside that there weren't enough hours in the day or days in the event to run the traditional class eliminations at Indy. That is simple logic.

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Exactly........If NHRA is making Some effort to have class, why do it like this, a 20% solution IMO. Maybe 10%. Time constraints and $$ one would guess.
If the NHRA wanted a solution that showed some effort would be to do all the class eliminations and qualifying for Stock/Super Stock on Wednesday and start parking as early as Monday. That has zero impact on the Pros if they get held over from the week before at Atlanta. Any Stock or Super Stock racers that are that late into eliminations at Atlanta are probably happy as I would be and the drive to Indy wouldn't be all that bad as a rush.

Sorry for the multiple quotes, but you hit on two points that I feel the NHRA laid down and gave a lame solution.
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But Phil did have the scheduled number of days that would be contested at Indy along with the info about the extra categories such as the Allstars. I don't see how someone on the inside couldn't calculate what we could see from the outside that there weren't enough hours in the day or days in the event to run the traditional class eliminations at Indy. That is simple logic.



If the NHRA wanted a solution that showed some effort would be to do all the class eliminations and qualifying for Stock/Super Stock on Wednesday and start parking as early as Monday. That has zero impact on the Pros if they get held over from the week before at Atlanta. Any Stock or Super Stock racers that are that late into eliminations at Atlanta are probably happy as I would be and the drive to Indy wouldn't be all that bad as a rush.

Sorry for the multiple quotes, but you hit on two points that I feel the NHRA laid down and gave a lame solution.
Kyle those are the best points so far. I think once Phil answered that in that way, i wondered.....well if nobody goes to the Barn maybe they will try to squeeze Class in somehow. Guess i`m just Pining for some Real racing lol.
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Well, it has been answered.

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...860&zoneid=175

Super Stock and Stock Class Eliminations Notice
Due to the restructuring of the Mello Yello Drag Racing Series for 2020, Stock and Super Stock Class Eliminations will not take place at the US Nationals. We will award the quickest car in each class (with more than 1 competitor) the Class Trophy. For those classes with single competitors, we will create the Combos and award the quickest competitor in each Combo the Class Trophy. Contingency Awards will be awarded as well.
Why even bother having class at Indy then?
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Why even bother having class at Indy then?
Exactly........If NHRA is making Some effort to have class, why do it like this, a 20% solution IMO. Maybe 10%. Time constraints and $$ one would guess.
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