12 bolt vs Dana 60

[Dragsinger]

with the ratios of 5.86 - 6.14 the 12 bolt pinion is very small. It may have been an isolated case but with the 5.86 in my Super 10 it did not hold up. Even with a Cryo treated gear set. Installing a 5.57 gear gained one more tooth on the pinion and gear life was much better. This was with a SS 327 running 10.30s at 8400 - 8600 RPM at around 3250 pounds

[340Cuda]

Isn't the 12 bolt about the only rear end that is more efficient than a Dana 60?

[BRETV]

Originally Posted by 340Cuda

Isn't the 12 bolt about the only rear end that is more efficient than a Dana 60?

8.8 Fords are like 12 bolts very efficient. I ran an 8.8 with 5.71's weighing 3100, trans brake,10.60's no problem.




Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

its a couple of dollars, but an aluminum spool, gun drilled lightweight axles, and if you dare ceramic bearings i think the Dana will be just as fast as the 12 bolt and not have the gear trouble either, + 6.50 and a 7.17 option is nice as well. it will also last forever. you already have it in the car as well

[Myron Piatek]

If you're still wanting to try the 12 bolt, perhaps Charlie Boyles could offer some advice and what to expect with a 12 bolt.

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[Dwight Southerland]

Hypoid angle for a Dana 60 is less than a 12 bolt. Several years ago, Car Craft did a side-by-side comparison of a 12-bolt, a Dana 60 and a 9-inch. The 9-inch was the loser. No clear winner between the 12-bolt and the Dana.

[Tom Meyer]

I have run a 12 bolt in my Chevy II forever, steel spool reg axles 6.14 gear. 283 SS car with brake 6000 + . Used good gear oil and had very few problems putting hundreds of runs on the gears. Only if I was looking for saving weight would I switch. There is a difference in sprung and unsprung weight that may pick the car up. Unless you get the 12 bolt stuff cheep money might be better on other go fast parts. Way back in the day Rick Johnson ran a 12 bolt in his hemi car. Tom

[Ed McLawhorn Jr.]

Originally Posted by Tom Meyer

I have run a 12 bolt in my Chevy II forever, steel spool reg axles 6.14 gear. 283 SS car with brake 6000 + . Used good gear oil and had very few problems putting hundreds of runs on the gears. Only if I was looking for saving weight would I switch. There is a difference in sprung and unsprung weight that may pick the car up. Unless you get the 12 bolt stuff cheep money might be better on other go fast parts. Way back in the day Rick Johnson ran a 12 bolt in his hemi car. Tom

Hey Tom. Good to hear from you! Primary reason would be weight, if any performance it would be gravy. While I have no prob with the 14.00 break in GT class. I can't get light enough for the 13.50 break GT class. I had forgotten Rick had one in is hemi. I do need to call you soon and discuss something though.

[Tom Goldman]

Since I have parts for both 12 bolt and Dana 60 in the shop right now ,I decided it was time to weigh in ,literally by putting everything on the scale.
Both rears measured within an inch of each other ,12 bolt 53" ,Dana 54" both have 1/4" chrome moly tubes and 3.15"bearing ends, both have steel caps.
Dana 60 90 pounds ,
12 bolt GM 70 pounds
Both have Strange light weight steel spools
Dana 60 13 pounds
12 bolt GM 8 pounds
Both have standard non lightened gears
Dana 60 16 1/2 pounds
12 bolt GM 14 pounds
Axles and bearings and yokes are within ounces
So the total unsprung weight difference is 27 1/2 pounds and rotating weight difference is 7 1/5 pounds.
The Dana still is better for frictional loss efficiency than the 12 bolt but that surely is offset by the difference in rotating mass.
Bottom line is both have their strengths and weaknesses . Ratio choice is much better for the 12 bolt for sure , and if we are talking a Stocker ,well you know what you
have to do .