Eliminations Question

[james schaechter]

Originally Posted by Marty Buth

Driver A and driver B are involved in a non heads up round of competition. Driver B is the slower dialed car and red lights. Driver A rightfully gets the winning ET slip. However driver A is found to be 45 pounds light at the scales. Driver B is then asked to scale and found to be legal weight. Which driver should move on to the next round?

First or worst. As long as the red lighting car waited at the scales to verify that the other car was legal, I would expect that the red lighting car is reinstated., it the red lighting car went back to the pits, it leaves a little uncertainty from my view.

[Mark Lewis]

I can tell you from past experience they don't always do that. I redlighted during a Saturday night round at the Gators many years ago.
Opponent drove by scales and fuel check. I pulled up and waited by the scales for 1 hour, thats right1 hour while they completed the rest of the rounds that night. A div 1 tech official went and found the guy on his way out of the track, a Div 1 racer. Not sure if that influenced it or not. He then brought the car to the scales and weighed,fuel check had long closed. After they went in the trailer and discussed it Jim Skelley said Steve Gibbs told him to forget it. Same situation for Greg Rowe except David Simmons told him he wouldn't come weigh because he could not win a heads up run the next round. Greg went on to win the race the next day and I always ask him since then if we are having buy backs at the race. Not the only time had bad decisions made I didn't agree with. But it is their ballpark and their rules like them or not. I just assumed they didn't like rednecks lol.

[Larry Hill]

So is the precedent: a red light is worse than being light at the scales?

[Bob Mulry]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

So is the precedent: a red light is worse than being light at the scales?

When he staged the was not legal to race...

The red light came after the illegal car staged..

Staging while not at legal weight was the first infraction...

[NHRA Trey]

Driver receives a red light foul start and the opposing driver is discovered to be in violation of technical rules (including weight, engine displacement, mechanical limitations, of fuel check).
-Driver in violation of technical infraction will be disqualified -driver committing the foul start will be reinstated.

[sska3360]

Would the driver who redlighted ONLY be re-instated if he waited by the scales for the non redlight driver to fail? Or would they go get the red light driver to bring him to the scales?

[Hacksaw]

Originally Posted by NHRA Trey

Driver receives a red light foul start and the opposing driver is discovered to be in violation of technical rules (including weight, engine displacement, mechanical limitations, of fuel check).
-Driver in violation of technical infraction will be disqualified -driver committing the foul start will be reinstated.

I totally agree with the above, but red light driver passed the scales and went to his pit like most everybody. Now what? Don't think tech boys want every -.000 driver sitting at scales and fuel check waiting for his opponent to pass. Should tech go find red light driver, make him weigh and pass fuel check or just reinstate him?

[KRatcliff]

Originally Posted by Hacksaw

I totally agree with the above, but red light driver passed the scales and went to his pit like most everybody. Now what? Don't think tech boys want every -.000 driver sitting at scales and fuel check waiting for his opponent to pass. Should tech go find red light driver, make him weigh and pass fuel check or just reinstate him?

That was why I thought both would have been disqualified, but I guess not.

[Jeff Stout]

Originally Posted by NHRA Trey

Driver receives a red light foul start and the opposing driver is discovered to be in violation of technical rules (including weight, engine displacement, mechanical limitations, of fuel check).
-Driver in violation of technical infraction will be disqualified -driver committing the foul start will be reinstated.

This^^^

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by james schaechter

First or worst. As long as the red lighting car waited at the scales to verify that the other car was legal, I would expect that the red lighting car is reinstated., it the red lighting car went back to the pits, it leaves a little uncertainty from my view.

This is why if I lose a round I will pull over near the scales and watch to see if the driver that beat me passes weight check