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Old 08-24-2020, 01:52 PM   #1
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Okay, number one the redlight is not how to start the race (I know for I do it all the time). I have no problem with the first redlight is the loser. I have fast and slow cars.

I am not the guy that moves next to a dragstrip and complains about the noise either. In other words, when I read the rulebook and accepted this as the venue that I would be competing in, I don’t expect the rules to be changed to meet my personal needs. I’m glad to get away from flag starters and the 5 bulb tree. I do like the reaction timers, just so I can tell how good or bad I was. I think we are good with the way it is.

I don’t have anything good to say about the truestart system. I’m pleased someone created it, for their benefit. I feel that if NHRA wanted it they would have had it created.

I personally don’t feel your truestart pain.

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Old 08-24-2020, 03:55 PM   #2
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In a non-handicapped race, first and worst are the same. We have to pick one or the other.

If your philosophy is that race cars should go fast and advantages should go to the faster car, then I see why you'd prefer first red loses. If your philosophy is that it's a bracket race and the goal is precision, then I see why you'd prefer worst red loses.

Since Stock, SS, and Comp for that matter are performance based classes, I have a hard time seeing it changing... but wouldn't complain if it does. I do think it's hard to justify why someone who is -.001 deserves to lose more than someone who is -.200 red in the same run, but those are the rules and "that's how we've always done it"
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Old 08-24-2020, 04:45 PM   #3
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Since Stock, SS, and Comp for that matter are performance based classes, I have a hard time seeing it changing...
As true as that may be, at the same time you could have a A/SA that barely runs the index getting a slight statistical advantage over the baddest I/SA in the country just because it's quicker, but not "better performing".
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Old 08-24-2020, 06:38 PM   #4
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Default Re: First VS Worst red light

Food for thought.
NHRA makes changes to the format all the time .
Not the same as allowing more goodies. (All due respect to my brother BP)
i.e. Space age materials not allowed in Pro/S , but allowed in Stock.


When R/T's started to appear on time slips , I'm sure the Mopar backed teams didn't like it one bit, having practiced R/T's at their exclusive test sessions.

When the 3 amber tree came out, I was driving a stick car, without a 2 step. I was used to having time to look back and forth between the tree and the tach. I didn't like it, but had to adapt.

I don't see where Tru-start in effect, would change much of anything. If you're looking around, instead of being locked in, I don't know what to tell you..Maybe Sal or Peter could help you ..;-)
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Okay, number one the redlight is not how to start the race (I know for I do it all the time). I have no problem with the first redlight is the loser. I have fast and slow cars.

I am not the guy that moves next to a dragstrip and complains about the noise either. In other words, when I read the rulebook and accepted this as the venue that I would be competing in, I don’t expect the rules to be changed to meet my personal needs. I’m glad to get away from flag starters and the 5 bulb tree. I do like the reaction timers, just so I can tell how good or bad I was. I think we are good with the way it is.

I don’t have anything good to say about the truestart system. I’m pleased someone created it, for their benefit. I feel that if NHRA wanted it they would have had it created.

I personally don’t feel your truestart pain.

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Asking to get parts on my car legal to go faster is a personal benefit. Asking 25 HP off my car only is a personal benefit. True start makes every one from trying to not red light. Now it's just the slow car that have to worry. Sounds like the current way is a personal benefit for the faster of 2 cars.

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