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Old 08-26-2020, 11:08 AM   #1
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Why are some trying to change the rules? I believe its because those with a slower car either feel it will give them an advantage, or I would say a second chace at winning the round. Even though they were red they can win if the other person is more red.

Being faster car has it's advantages, but one thing they don't have is a clean tree or starting line. Sometime watching that slow car go out 1 or 2 seconds or more distracts someones tree, or watching the other car move as you are in the middle of your tree coming down will distract you.

I've heard people for years say they would rather leave first and have the advantage of a " clean tree", and other say they would rather leave second and chase.

I think the way the rule is and has been for years is an equalizer. Leaving first gives you a clean tree, but for some being the chase car is a different advantage. You can't have it all, but some want to tip the scales or change the rules for what has worked for a long long time.
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Old 08-26-2020, 03:18 PM   #2
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If True Start is put into service with S & SS it will a begin the slow death of the classes and several manufactures will suffer as well. Why build / maintain a quick car ? No need to look for more power over the Winter so why order new cylinder heads or converter or gears or headers or etc. Maybe should take 20 degrees of timing out at the hit so it will never spin again or leave the line in second gear. Real excitement right there.
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If True Start is put into service with S & SS it will a begin the slow death of the classes and several manufactures will suffer as well. Why build / maintain a quick car ? No need to look for more power over the Winter so why order new cylinder heads or converter or gears or headers or etc. Maybe should take 20 degrees of timing out at the hit so it will never spin again or leave the line in second gear. Real excitement right there.
Are you honestly meaning to say that the primary reason anyone has ever built a fast car is so they can pick up one round win every couple years where they were red, but their opponent was also red and dialed slower?
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Are you honestly meaning to say that the primary reason anyone has ever built a fast car is so they can pick up one round win every couple years where they were red, but their opponent was also red and dialed slower?
No, not the primary reason, also I think it's more than a round win every couple of years.
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No, not the primary reason, also I think it's more than a round win every couple of years.
Been racing in Truestart events for a couple years and Im a 10 flat car. I spot out I would guess 80% of the time and no reversal for me. So yes it does not happen very often.
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If True Start is put into service with S & SS it will a begin the slow death of the classes and several manufactures will suffer as well. Why build / maintain a quick car ? No need to look for more power over the Winter so why order new cylinder heads or converter or gears or headers or etc. Maybe should take 20 degrees of timing out at the hit so it will never spin again or leave the line in second gear. Real excitement right there.
The death of class cars and detuning due to Truestart. Are you serious? You cant be serious.
I know of plenty of fast cars that detune for a bad track. Maybe the death of class cars will come from poor starting line conditions. Guys build cars that run 1.50 under and 1000ft race. AHFS should have killed class racing by your thoughts.
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[QUOTE=Hacksaw;621853. Why build / maintain a quick car ? [/QUOTE]

Same as now ...To spend as much money as possible
To survive a heads up run ..
To win class..
To do a big wheelie and get a kick in the azz

None of that would change.

So far , we have learned that there are so many advantages to leaving first , that they deserve to be in first red /lose jeopardy...Interesting take.
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I went from a 8 second super pro car to a 13 / 14 second stocker. I think the advantage at the finish line being the chase car most of the time is more of an advantage than not always having a clean tree. Besides, my car is slow enough that I'm well out of the fast cars sight at the tree most of the time. As a slow car, I would vote for tru start if asked but it really doesn't matter that much to me either way.

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