CLASS RACER wall of SHAME ....

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by fordteacherguy

Simple fix.....All winners undergo technical inspection! Only 2 things keep people in line...paranoia or integrity..

Maybe quick checks of carbs on heads up runs.

Put some paranoia back into class racing!

This works for me!

[Gary Summers]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

This works for me!

Billie you are right on it looks like you can do that to any carb but this 50 year old one that nobody makes any parts for but most of the hollers have down leg boosters so why carb is singled out because it’s got shinny boosters what’s fair for one is fair for the other.so I guess the booster deal is pick and choose as to who they going to kick out

[John Winslow Jr]

I nearly got the boot for front bumper brackets and dash cluster in St. Louis in 2006, got my letter in the mail and inspected for corrections at the next race I went to in Seattle.

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by fordteacherguy

Simple fix.....All winners undergo technical inspection! Only 2 things keep people in line...paranoia or integrity...The guys with integrity self police...the others...without the paranoia of a legal check...its a free for all.

You want a check/get checked...and put a system in place that if you get bounced..$/points get handed down. Maybe quick checks of carbs on heads up runs...You can make all the arguments against a policy like this...teardowns after the race..blah..blah..blah or continue to have the class be a simple bracket race...

It's obvious there is no NHRA man power or knowledge to tech all cars up front...do 1 or 2 at the end and start bouncing cheaters if there are any. Put some paranoia back into class racing!

Good point Brian

[jamie2370]

I don't have an interest in seeing anyone get a vacation from racing but.....cheating is cheating. If you get told something is illegal....lets just say your throttle body was deemed illegal after a class win and going more than 1.20 under. What kind of penalty should be implied? Serious question. In this instance it seems the racer was DQed from that race, no HP was given and racer is participating at the next race. Now...on that question. SInce the infraction was actually in class eliminations which technically was Class for the Gators and not the actual Div race but the penalty was implied to the Div race. I am just lost on where NHRA stands on penalties for cheating. YES, everybody pushes the grey area in the Rule Book. Remember....its not cheating unless you get caught....or that's what I am told lol. Like MJ said, if you get caught, take it like a man because ultimately you knew it was wrong. So what should be the penalty be?

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Gregg, Have you noticed that for 10 years, they've only wanted to check venturi and throttle plate bore on carbs? Apparently they are just now, looking at them more closely. Okay then,,Check them all!

and if this is a change in NHRA Tech's policy towards carbs then there should ,at least, be a notice of it! BECAUSE over the last couple of years I have been told by more than one Tech that NHRA's "new policy" is ONLY checking venturi size and throttle bore size. Are we checking boosters again? If we are then how does this affect the "replacement Holleys? Do they have to use an OEM Annular Discharge booster or can they continue to use a Down-leg booster? How about throttle shafts and blades? A little more of a heads-up here guys. I don't like surprises! And I REALLY don't like ambushes!

[Terry Drinkwater]

Oh boy.........

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

and if this is a change in NHRA Tech's policy towards carbs then there should ,at least, be a notice of it! BECAUSE over the last couple of years I have been told by more than one Tech that NHRA's "new policy" is ONLY checking venturi size and throttle bore size. Are we checking boosters again? If we are then how does this affect the "replacement Holleys? Do they have to use an OEM Annular Discharge booster or can they continue to use a Down-leg booster? How about throttle shafts and blades? A little more of a heads-up here guys. I don't like surprises! And I REALLY don't like ambushes!

Agree. Policies have been inconsistent and clear as mud.

Let's go back some years ago when NHRA started bouncing people with Quadrajets that appeared to be polished or did not have any casting flashing. Still remember showing NHRA Tech, a brand new Quadrajet, still sealed in the factory wrapper. I just had opened the box and they unwrapped it themselves, when they looked at the venturis, there were no flaws and they looked perfect. I asked them if the carburetor would be illegal and they were perplexed that a new carburetor would look that way.

All I said was, "how about if the manufacturer changed their process for cleaning castings with a new method and this happens to be the result? Is it the racers fault? How about developing some criteria and share what is acceptable and what is not? All they did was to take some pictures of the carburetor and no answer to the issue.

It also appears that the casting finish inspections by NHRA on carburetors stopped when all the newly approved replacement Edelbrock and QFT carburetors were made available.

[Jon Sarrett]

Start with something incredibly simple, a cubic inch tester. They already carry one in the tech trailer. Wouldn't take but a few minutes to pump an engine up. If something looks fishy, keep going from there.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

Agree. Policies have been inconsistent and clear as mud.

Let's go back some years ago when NHRA started bouncing people with Quadrajets that appeared to be polished or did not have any casting flashing. Still remember showing NHRA Tech, a brand new Quadrajet, still sealed in the factory wrapper. I just had opened the box and they unwrapped it themselves, when they looked at the venturis, there were no flaws and they looked perfect. I asked them if the carburetor would be illegal and they were perplexed that a new carburetor would look that way.

All I said was, "how about if the manufacturer changed their process for cleaning castings with a new method and this happens to be the result? Is it the racers fault? How about developing some criteria and share what is acceptable and what is not? All they did was to take some pictures of the carburetor and no answer to the issue.

It also appears that the casting finish inspections by NHRA on carburetors stopped when all the newly approved replacement Edelbrock and QFT carburetors were made available.

Also remember standing by when someone almost got bounced with a new Edelbrock.
It looked like someone took a die grinder from underneath, and made a pass around the venturi small point. ..Someone was able to produce one or two more brand new units that were the same.. The racer was okay-ed.