Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers

oldskool · 09-03-2021, 09:03 AM

This pic was posted from this year's US Nats. The car is a '78 T/A. The driver is Monte Howard.

To me, this is one of the most famous of all Pontiac SS cars.

Why ?

It was #1 qualifier at Indy in 2005.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop

And, the Bird won it's class from '03 thru '07. That's 5 years in a row ! Won again in 2010. It 1st showed up on DRC in 1998. Ken Shawver was driving thru '06. Monte was listed as the driver in '07.

Here's an Email Monte sent me.

"The 2010 US Nationals class win was a pretty good story.

We went to Indy with a fresh engine, after our first run it was not quite as fast as I would have liked, second run it was slower. I cut the oil filter apart to find the filter full of bearing material. Not in a very good mood. I sat in the trailer thinking we were done for the weekend, I came up with a idea. Thinking my first qualifying run would get us qualified for the show. I decided to head home and put our spare short block in the car. Left the track at noon on Thursday thinking I could have it back together for first round of the eliminator on Sunday. With the help of good friend Dean Davies we started pulling the engine around 2:00 pm Thursday afternoon. By midnight we had the engine and trans out, pulled the heads, Intake, Cam & Lifters, timing chain, oil pan and pump off the hurt engine. My friend was tired and went home at midnight. He asked how long are you gonna work on it. I said well I am gonna work as late as I could. Knowing that if things went smooth that I might be able to make it back to Indy the next morning for class eliminations . I drug out the spare short block that consisted of a block, crank, rods and pistons. Cleaned up all the parts, degreed the cam in, assembled the rest of the engine and had it in the car and fired up at 3:00 am. Loaded the car and all the tools, went in the house took a shower and slept for 45 minutes and then left for Indy. With only 45 minutes sleep we ended up winning class on Friday with a spare short block that I had to scotch brite the rust out of the cylinder walls.
My friends that I parked with at Indy knew when we left Thursday that our plan was to be back Saturday night or Sunday morning. They where shocked when we pulled back in our pit spot Friday Morning. Bill Rink walked over and asked where I went. I told him the story and he said “you are nuts”. "

oldskool · 09-09-2021, 09:25 PM

Today at the Mopar Nats, John Agnetta got the GT/LA class win, in the Pickett & Agneta Pontiac powered 4th gen Bird. I think it has "Hatari" power, from Phil Monteith.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop

After 3 rounds of qualifying, he's in #17 position.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop

oldskool · 09-25-2021, 03:55 AM

Just noticed that the Mike Morgan 350 Pontiac powered '77 Formula Super Stocker is for sale.

This is the car that Sal Piacentini raced. It has won class at Indy, & was RU to Bill Rink a couple of times.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

Has run more than a sec under. Was 1.233 under @ Indy in 2018, good enuff for the #11 position.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

$35,000.

http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...39&postcount=1

That's a lot of money to me. But, considering what lots of guys are spending on competitive SS cars nowadays, I suppose this is actually a really good price.

oldskool · 09-26-2021, 04:05 PM

Well ya'll, Robert Cruzen just made it into the SS final of the Midwest Nats !

For any who don't know, Robert's little Cobalt is 428 Pontiac powered. It's the quickest Pontiac powered SS car I know of, having turned an 8.90, in the GT/AA class final @ Indy, a few years back.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop

He won the Wally !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop

09-09-2021, 09:25 PM	#2
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers Today at the Mopar Nats, John Agnetta got the GT/LA class win, in the Pickett & Agneta Pontiac powered 4th gen Bird. I think it has "Hatari" power, from Phil Monteith. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop After 3 rounds of qualifying, he's in #17 position. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 09-09-2021 at 09:35 PM.

09-25-2021, 03:55 AM	#3
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers Just noticed that the Mike Morgan 350 Pontiac powered '77 Formula Super Stocker is for sale. This is the car that Sal Piacentini raced. It has won class at Indy, & was RU to Bill Rink a couple of times. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop Has run more than a sec under. Was 1.233 under @ Indy in 2018, good enuff for the #11 position. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop $35,000. http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...39&postcount=1 That's a lot of money to me. But, considering what lots of guys are spending on competitive SS cars nowadays, I suppose this is actually a really good price. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 09-25-2021 at 04:22 AM.

09-26-2021, 04:05 PM	#4
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers Well ya'll, Robert Cruzen just made it into the SS final of the Midwest Nats ! For any who don't know, Robert's little Cobalt is 428 Pontiac powered. It's the quickest Pontiac powered SS car I know of, having turned an 8.90, in the GT/AA class final @ Indy, a few years back. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop He won the Wally ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop Last edited by oldskool; 09-26-2021 at 05:18 PM.

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09-03-2021, 09:03 AM	#1
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers This pic was posted from this year's US Nats. The car is a '78 T/A. The driver is Monte Howard. To me, this is one of the most famous of all Pontiac SS cars. Why ? It was #1 qualifier at Indy in 2005. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop And, the Bird won it's class from '03 thru '07. That's 5 years in a row ! Won again in 2010. It 1st showed up on DRC in 1998. Ken Shawver was driving thru '06. Monte was listed as the driver in '07. Here's an Email Monte sent me. "The 2010 US Nationals class win was a pretty good story. We went to Indy with a fresh engine, after our first run it was not quite as fast as I would have liked, second run it was slower. I cut the oil filter apart to find the filter full of bearing material. Not in a very good mood. I sat in the trailer thinking we were done for the weekend, I came up with a idea. Thinking my first qualifying run would get us qualified for the show. I decided to head home and put our spare short block in the car. Left the track at noon on Thursday thinking I could have it back together for first round of the eliminator on Sunday. With the help of good friend Dean Davies we started pulling the engine around 2:00 pm Thursday afternoon. By midnight we had the engine and trans out, pulled the heads, Intake, Cam & Lifters, timing chain, oil pan and pump off the hurt engine. My friend was tired and went home at midnight. He asked how long are you gonna work on it. I said well I am gonna work as late as I could. Knowing that if things went smooth that I might be able to make it back to Indy the next morning for class eliminations . I drug out the spare short block that consisted of a block, crank, rods and pistons. Cleaned up all the parts, degreed the cam in, assembled the rest of the engine and had it in the car and fired up at 3:00 am. Loaded the car and all the tools, went in the house took a shower and slept for 45 minutes and then left for Indy. With only 45 minutes sleep we ended up winning class on Friday with a spare short block that I had to scotch brite the rust out of the cylinder walls. My friends that I parked with at Indy knew when we left Thursday that our plan was to be back Saturday night or Sunday morning. They where shocked when we pulled back in our pit spot Friday Morning. Bill Rink walked over and asked where I went. I told him the story and he said “you are nuts”. " Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 09-03-2021 at 09:44 AM.