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Old 09-03-2021, 03:23 PM   #1
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Default Re: Pontiacs

Another Stock/SS car I consider rare is the '69 Bird. The recent debut of the Bruce Noland '69 T/A reminded me of this.

Other than the "New" T/A, the only other active '69 Birds I know of are the John Schloe Stocker & the Keri Angeles Pari SS Bird.

John once ran the RAIV engine, 'til he cracked a head. Has still run mid 10's with D-port heads. That's really good, especially considering the fact that NHRA gives the '69 D-port engine more hp than the nearly identical '68 400 engine.

That's probably the reason there are not any other '69 Birds running Stock. The only other one I know of that raced this century belonged to Kevin MacNicol. He changed it over to Super Street, several years back.

And of course, the SS Bird I mentioned was supposedly the 1st reg SS class Pontiac 400 car to get into the 9's. Did it back in 2000, with Keri driving. I assume the car was built by her Dad, John Angeles.
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Old 09-03-2021, 10:21 PM   #2
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Default Re: Pontiacs

I've mentioned that there have been a few 301 Turbo Birds that ran pretty good.

But, I only know of one 301 non-turbo Pontiac Stocker. It is a '79 Lemans. Belongs to Billy Nees. Don Himes drove it for a few years.

I'll have to class it as another one-of-a-kind Pontiac Stocker. There may have been others. If so, I'm not aware of it. Billy will know.

Some may not be aware that the 301 4-barrel engines came with an 800cfm Q-jet carb. From what I've read, the weak links in the 301 are the block & the crank. The 301T blocks & cranks are said to be stronger than the non turbo blocks/cranks. I've also read that most all '80 & '81 301 engines used a 301T block, even it was not turbo equipped. All the 301T parts are getting hard to find. So, a 301 is probably not a good engine to use for a new Stocker build.
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