To all you INTELLECTUALS (B Parker)

[Grey Ghost]

Originally Posted by 1347

Because 80% of the class is running flat out trying to win class. That's why

As it should be. But what are the 20% doing...keeping it under the 1.20 even in the final to avoid the hit. Should not be using AHFS in any class run offs at any race.

[1347]

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

As it should be. But what are the 20% doing...keeping it under the 1.20 even in the final to avoid the hit. Should not be using AHFS in any class run offs at any race.

So in no race should you be penalized for running more that 1.20 over in class? How about heads ups? If that's what you are saying, when should it be in effect, when you are dialing in or just trying to get a better spot on the Ladder?

And if that is what you are trying to say, when does the guy with a combo that's not as competitive as the guy that goes 1.30 under in class ever have a shot?

[Grey Ghost]

Originally Posted by 1347

So in no race should you be penalized for running more that 1.20 over in class? How about heads ups? If that's what you are saying, when should it be in effect, when you are dialing in or just trying to get a better spot on the Ladder?

And if that is what you trying to say, when does the guy with a combo that's not as competitive as the guy that goes 1.30 under in class have a shot?

I'm talking about races where class run offs are being done not eliminations. In class run offs if your combo isn't as competitive as the combo going 1.30 are whatever under you are screwed. Thats the way it's always been. Slower combos DON'T win class run offs if faster combos are competing. If you want to win class your car needs to be competitive with the fastest cars running that class. If you go out to Indy running .6-.8 tenths under you may make the show depending on who shows up but you ain't going to be bring a Wally home for a class win.

[1347]

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

I'm talking about races where class run offs are being done not eliminations. In class run offs if your combo isn't as competitive as the combo going 1.30 are whatever under you are screwed. Thats the way it's always been. Slower combos DON'T win class run offs if faster combos are competing. If you want to win class your car needs to be competitive with the fastest cars running that class. If you go out to Indy running .6-.8 tenths under you may make the show depending on who shows up but you ain't going to be bring a Wally home for a class win.

I think if you ran your own survey and asked if there should be no afhs at any events where class would run you would get a different result than just Indy.
Maybe your A/S is one of the fastest in the country and thats why you feel this way, but most won't in my opinion. And I was in favor of not having AFHS at Indy!

[Grey Ghost]

Originally Posted by 1347

I think if you ran your own survey and asked if there should be no afhs at any events where class would run you would get a different result than just Indy.
Maybe your A/S is one of the fastest in the country and thats why you feel this way, but most won't in my opinion. And I was in favor of not having AFHS at Indy!

What difference does it make if it's Indy or not. If there is a car at any of the class run off races that can run up against the 1.20 under and you can't it isn't going to do you any good having the AHFS in effect.

And why just Indy? There were alot of very fast cars that didn't attend Indy this year. That's a long haul for alot of racers from div 6&7. Why not let them run all out at Pamona, Seattle, or Vegas. There are national events in every division why not at least one no AHFS in effect class run off in each division. I would like seeing what the rocket ships will really do in their own back yards. Open divisional races have no AHFS but do not have class run offs.

[Frank Castros]

This very subject was created by a liberalized rule book, the interpretation of it and the use of aftermarket parts, as Billy effectively articulated.

I've said it many times before, if you spend the time and money to go faster than 1.0 - 1.2 under but are unwilling to even to win class, what the hell are you doing this for?

Stock Eliminator in my humble opinion has been bastardized.

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

What difference does it make if it's Indy or not. If there is a car at any of the class run off races that can run up against the 1.20 under and you can't it isn't going to do you any good having the AHFS in effect.

And why just Indy? There were alot of very fast cars that didn't attend Indy this year. That's a long haul for alot of racers from div 6&7. Why not let them run all out at Pamona, Seattle, or Vegas. There are national events in every division why not at least one no AHFS in effect class run off in each division. I would like seeing what the rocket ships will really do in their own back yards. Open divisional races have no AHFS but do not have class run offs.

Class run off at Dutch Classic

[Frank Castros]

Glenn,
Sadly the Pennsylvania Dutch Classic isn't what it once was.
Frank

P.S. Congratulations on your great performance at Indy!