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Old 09-18-2021, 08:54 PM   #1
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Default Re: Best B.O.P. stock and super stockers of all time

OK, here's a partial answer to the question.

Some of the '67 GTO's did run B/SA.
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OK, here's a partial answer to the question.

Some of the '67 GTO's did run B/SA.
Thanks, I thought it fit, I get Wt/HP=9.66 for 67 GTO RamAir.

Sometimes I DO forget the 66 Tempest wasnt quite a Powerglide - I have it in my trans file as Tempestorque.

I just remember my buddy's 66 LeMans back in the 1970s, little 326 and a big Qjet we put on top one weekend - we thought we'd have a Big Block then. Instead I just remember it howling thru that Looooooong 1st gear, just like a powerglide so I probably remember them that way.

From the table I posted in the other thread, you can see why I'm trying to figure out all the Pontiacs in there. All the pink cells are my guesses. No idea on a couple of them.
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"...From the table I posted in the other thread..."

Link to that table please.
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"...From the table I posted in the other thread..."

Link to that table please.
Here you go, thanks for looking!

https://classracer.com/classforum/sh...t=62802&page=3
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Sorry that I don't understand.

You have "r scoville" listed with 3 different Pontiacs, winning F/SA, with the same numbers.

So, did you just list 3 different cars you THINK he could have been driving ? Or in other words: Were you just listing 3 possibilities ?
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Sorry that I don't understand.

You have "r scoville" listed with 3 different Pontiacs, winning F/SA, with the same numbers.

So, did you just list 3 different cars you THINK he could have been driving ? Or in other words: Were you just listing 3 possibilities ?
Exactly!
Sometimes I'll do that when there's multiple possibilities & have no idea which one. I dont even know that it's one of those 3 - just my best guesses.
So I did that for Scoville F/SA.

For Sargi in B/SA, that 67 RamAir1 was about the only one that made sense unless it was a 421 Super Duty Bonneville which I didnt think existed. So I just put that one guess down, but still a guess.

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Old 09-20-2021, 08:16 AM   #7
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Well, I've pretty much covered Pontiacs up thru the last year of an auto trans equipped 400 engine, in '78.

But, that leaves all the Pontiac powered GT Super Stockers. Since Don Kennedy helped write the GT rules, I'll mention his GT cars 1st. He had a 3rd gen Bird, with SD455 power. Then went to a 428 powered Sunfire, which he still races. It runs low 9's. It got the GT/EA class win @ Indy, in 2019.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=355810

Then, don't know if these cars qualify for this thread, or not. They're Pontiac powered, but the bodies are Cobalt. Robert Cruzen ran 8.90 to win the GT/AA class at Indy, in 2016.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

The other one belongs to Irvin Johns. Todd Frantz drove it to the Indy '19 GT/FA class win. This year at Indy, Irvin was #20 @ .956 under, & won the GT/EA class, in an All-Pontiac 428 powered final.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2021#indextop

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2021#indextop

I suppose the most well known & winningest Pontiac powered GT cars are the Phil Monteith "Hatari" Birds. Phil had a 3rd gen. IIRC, it ran a 6X head 400. Peter Biondo drove it to his 1st SS championship. It was sold to Bruce Fulper, who won class @ Indy, with it.

Then Phil built a 4th gen. Peter won 2 more championships with it. Others have driven it, also.

Phil also provides Hatari Pontiac power for the Pickett & Agneta 4th gen. John Agneta currently drives the car. It is said to be the former Johnny Duncan car.

Leo Glasbrenner ran a 4th gen for a few years.

Greg Meyer has run a nice 3rd gen for several years.

Will use 2 posts for these GT cars.
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