"out of the box" suggestion

Terry Cain · 04-06-2008, 10:11 AM

Tom,
I like it. Really, I do. Let's also make it where bye runs don't even go down the track. Saves time, saves fuel, save emissions, saves a run on equipment, spectators aren't confused, etc. The fast car qualifiers already get one bonus for being fast. No since giving them two. Why give them a single to dial in when no one else gets one? OR maybe they should get the run to dial and then MAYBE they would run it out in qualifying to get that free pass.

Adger Smith · 04-06-2008, 06:08 PM

Won't ever happen. Let's see... It rewards the racers that perform & it could help eliminate some of the qualifying games. ( I bet someone would figure a way to get an advantage, might already have) :~) Dropping all bye runs would make the show quicker & better. It makes too much sense to have a good show with no bye runs. It actually makes as much or more sense than the way Pro qualifying is now done. The pro way is confusing to the general spectator & even some of us seasoned racers. This would lessen confusion on the part of the general spectator. Oh yes, it could take a little manpower & brain power to setup... That would probably out weigh the better show.
Just my .02 based on the past

Dick Butler · 04-06-2008, 06:51 PM

Tom, Good constructive idea. It would definitely encourage people to "run fast". I do think the real question out "there" is how to have both.... A successful factoring method to address bogus cars and encourage fast racing that doesnt punish hard work.

thomas sheehan · 04-08-2008, 09:43 PM

Dick....

Belle Rose example.... (SS)

57 cars would have meant 7 byes for the #1 - #7 qualifiers.
#7 qualifier was -1.13 under/
There were another 13 cars more than -1.00 under....... they would have all been forced to step it up and exceed the -1.13 to get the rd one BYE.

If you want a round one BYE (always the toughest rd of the race)... you have to qualify high to get it.
I'll bet that the qualifying games would be hilarious.........

Adger

You are right.... it makes too much sense.

Don W.

Try it at any open, national or divisional.

Tom Sheehan

04-06-2008, 06:08 PM	#2
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: "out of the box" suggestion Won't ever happen. Let's see... It rewards the racers that perform & it could help eliminate some of the qualifying games. ( I bet someone would figure a way to get an advantage, might already have) :~) Dropping all bye runs would make the show quicker & better. It makes too much sense to have a good show with no bye runs. It actually makes as much or more sense than the way Pro qualifying is now done. The pro way is confusing to the general spectator & even some of us seasoned racers. This would lessen confusion on the part of the general spectator. Oh yes, it could take a little manpower & brain power to setup... That would probably out weigh the better show. Just my .02 based on the past __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS) Last edited by Adger Smith; 04-08-2008 at 11:31 PM.

04-06-2008, 06:51 PM	#3
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: "out of the box" suggestion Tom, Good constructive idea. It would definitely encourage people to "run fast". I do think the real question out "there" is how to have both.... A successful factoring method to address bogus cars and encourage fast racing that doesnt punish hard work.

04-08-2008, 09:43 PM	#4
thomas sheehan Photographer Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,717 Likes: 24 Liked 75 Times in 29 Posts	Re: "out of the box" suggestion Dick.... Belle Rose example.... (SS) 57 cars would have meant 7 byes for the #1 - #7 qualifiers. #7 qualifier was -1.13 under/ There were another 13 cars more than -1.00 under....... they would have all been forced to step it up and exceed the -1.13 to get the rd one BYE. If you want a round one BYE (always the toughest rd of the race)... you have to qualify high to get it. I'll bet that the qualifying games would be hilarious......... Adger You are right.... it makes too much sense. Don W. Try it at any open, national or divisional. Tom Sheehan Last edited by thomas sheehan; 04-08-2008 at 09:47 PM.

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04-06-2008, 10:11 AM	#1
Terry Cain Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Georgetown, Indiana (close to Louisville, KY) Posts: 777 Likes: 530 Liked 231 Times in 107 Posts	Re: "out of the box" suggestion Tom, I like it. Really, I do. Let's also make it where bye runs don't even go down the track. Saves time, saves fuel, save emissions, saves a run on equipment, spectators aren't confused, etc. The fast car qualifiers already get one bonus for being fast. No since giving them two. Why give them a single to dial in when no one else gets one? OR maybe they should get the run to dial and then MAYBE they would run it out in qualifying to get that free pass. __________________ Terry Cain ???? STK tcain19689585@gmail.com