Did this just happen no generators?

10-17-2021, 05:36 PM

Newsome cannot ban gas generators. He can phase out future sales.. What happens in remote areas or local with medical issues that rely on them ? The grid will fail again or is shut down due to wind. It becomes a s a f e t y issue and I see lawsuits stacking up.

FireSale · 10-17-2021, 09:03 PM

Here's the quote from the legislation.
"SEC. 2.Section 43018.11 is added to the Health and Safety Code, to read:
43018.11.(a) (1) By July 1, 2022, the state board shall, consistent with federal law, adopt cost-effective and technologically feasible regulations to prohibit engine exhaust and evaporative emissions from new small off-road engines, as defined by the state board. Those regulations shall apply to engines produced on or after January 1, 2024, or as soon as the state board determines is feasible, whichever is later."
Nothing solid until 2024 and that's new production model engines only. The "Consistent with federal law...cost effective and technologically feasible" parts may be difficult for these folks to manage in 8 months time.

EDIT: California needs to address it's ability to safely produce and distribute power to the public before passing dumb legislation telling people to use more rechargeable alternatives to gas engines for outdoor work. They have a power grid that is so compromised it is responsible for several of the larger wildfires over the past few years. PG&E has cut service during fire season to prevent fires. But then it's cheaper for Politicians to squeeze owners and manufacturers than invest in the future of the State of California.
When I finished college in the '70s in Ohio I wanted to teach in California, but you had to live in the state for several years to work in the school system so I wound up here in Washington State. Lucky me.

Tom P · 10-17-2021, 09:44 PM

I guess to politicians zooming around in jets California isn't very big? But if they ever drive avoiding I5 like me, then they'd know there are vast swaths of CA without much population and probably limited electrical power. What is feasible in LA or SF would not be so easy in Hornbrook and Happy Camp..

Chevy55 · 10-19-2021, 01:12 PM

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10-17-2021, 05:36 PM	#1
Barry Polley Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Did this just happen no generators? Newsome cannot ban gas generators. He can phase out future sales.. What happens in remote areas or local with medical issues that rely on them ? The grid will fail again or is shut down due to wind. It becomes a s a f e t y issue and I see lawsuits stacking up.

10-17-2021, 09:03 PM	#2
FireSale VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lakewood Washington Posts: 1,407 Likes: 29 Liked 237 Times in 126 Posts	Re: Did this just happen no generators? Here's the quote from the legislation. "SEC. 2.Section 43018.11 is added to the Health and Safety Code, to read: 43018.11.(a) (1) By July 1, 2022, the state board shall, consistent with federal law, adopt cost-effective and technologically feasible regulations to prohibit engine exhaust and evaporative emissions from new small off-road engines, as defined by the state board. Those regulations shall apply to engines produced on or after January 1, 2024, or as soon as the state board determines is feasible, whichever is later." Nothing solid until 2024 and that's new production model engines only. The "Consistent with federal law...cost effective and technologically feasible" parts may be difficult for these folks to manage in 8 months time. EDIT: California needs to address it's ability to safely produce and distribute power to the public before passing dumb legislation telling people to use more rechargeable alternatives to gas engines for outdoor work. They have a power grid that is so compromised it is responsible for several of the larger wildfires over the past few years. PG&E has cut service during fire season to prevent fires. But then it's cheaper for Politicians to squeeze owners and manufacturers than invest in the future of the State of California. When I finished college in the '70s in Ohio I wanted to teach in California, but you had to live in the state for several years to work in the school system so I wound up here in Washington State. Lucky me. __________________ Dale Shearon 68 Mustang 6394 Last edited by FireSale; 10-17-2021 at 09:20 PM.

10-17-2021, 09:44 PM	#3
Tom P Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 707 Likes: 30 Liked 239 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Did this just happen no generators? I guess to politicians zooming around in jets California isn't very big? But if they ever drive avoiding I5 like me, then they'd know there are vast swaths of CA without much population and probably limited electrical power. What is feasible in LA or SF would not be so easy in Hornbrook and Happy Camp..

10-19-2021, 01:12 PM	#4
Chevy55 Banned Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 324 Likes: 625 Liked 179 Times in 89 Posts	Re: Did this just happen no generators? This is the future, like it or not it's going to be a different world for our children https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8hmg717/

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