Pump gas in stock

[Jim Caughlin]

The only comment I can make on this subject is the cost of the fuel that I consume at a race (and I'm running C16 which isn't cheap) is probably the least expensive part of the weekend. If the difference in cost between one of the lesser expensive race fuels and pump gas is going to break you, you're probably in the wrong sport.

[Bill Bogues]

yeah, but every little bit helps.....make a difference to people just barely hanging on.

[SDT1DYI]

Originally Posted by Bill Bogues

yeah, but every little bit helps.....make a difference to people just barely hanging on.

C11 is now 17.00 $ a gallon . At a Divisonal double, with 3 TNTs 3-4 Qs runs and going 2-4 E runs
The difference between running C11 and pump gas could be as much as 150 00$ or more. Times 6-8 Divisonals and some National events, saving could over 1K annually.
Not a small number for some...

[Mark Yacavone]

Only thing I could think of is they (being NHRA tech ) could pick up a sample from the nearest let's say Shell station. Yours would have to look the same at fuel check. They're not gonna do it but maybe this will get them.
NHRA, are you listening ? Shell Oil shakedown!

[Dave Gantz]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Only thing I could think of is they (being NHRA tech ) could pick up a sample from the nearest let's say Shell station. Yours would have to look the same at fuel check. They're not gonna do it but maybe this will get them.
NHRA, are you listening ? Shell Oil shakedown!

Good idea. Like you said though, NHRA has no motivation to do so. If it ain't their idea, it ain't a good idea.

[SST3193]

Friend raced carts and they all brought fuel, it all went into the same big container. Everyone run that same fuel and whatever else was put in that fuel tanker. Certainly Sunoco ( or Whoever) would love to be seen dispensing fuel from a pretty fuel tanker.
Some deal along those lines could work but, OHHHH the bitchin’!

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by SST3193

Certainly Sunoco ( or Whoever) would love to be seen dispensing fuel from a pretty fuel tanker.
Some deal along those lines could work but, OHHHH the bitchin’!

Now something like "everyone run that same fuel" would/could be interesting but..............
who gets to pick the fuel and is it always the same fuel. My stuff acts differently and wants different tune-ups on different fuels. Not to mention, a 396/375 is going to want a "hotter" fuel than a 6 cyl. Nova and that 6 cyl. Nova isn't going to run as well on the fuel that a 396/375 would need to live.

[Signman]

I get this discussion is about making pump gas legal but NHRA fuel test fails oxygenate additives and they don't seem interested in a better device.



A few years back VP was promoting C9 which is high octane unleaded gasoline with no additives. 100% gasoline no oxygenates. It was marketed to circle track who had embraced it and Stock Eliminator. At the time was looking at fuels and asking questions while building a good engine.



NO it was not as fast as C11 but it did not have any of the corrosive additives. Could still run a second under the tuneup developing had good potential to go rounds plus it is lower cost. Won class at a national event with it which netted some help from VP in product and tech.



NHRA removed C9 and a Sunoco equivalent from the accepted fuel list because it did not test consistently national event to national event plus NO ONE WAS RUNNING IT! Very few racers would be affected.



In division one the only other person I met who admitted using it was a small inch heavy upper class racer. He had similar results and liked it for similar reasons. Trying to help promote the fuel over the few years it was on the list the question always was IS IT FASTER of course the answer was no so off to the C11 drum they went.

[Dave Gantz]

Originally Posted by SST3193

Friend raced carts and they all brought fuel, it all went into the same big container. Everyone run that same fuel and whatever else was put in that fuel tanker. Certainly Sunoco ( or Whoever) would love to be seen dispensing fuel from a pretty fuel tanker.
Some deal along those lines could work but, OHHHH the bitchin’!

If everyone brought their own fuel to NHRA races, and it was all dumped into one container; the explosion could be seen from outer space!

[Henrys Toy]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Only thing I could think of is they (being NHRA tech ) could pick up a sample from the nearest let's say Shell station. Yours would have to look the same at fuel check. They're not gonna do it but maybe this will get them.
NHRA, are you listening ? Shell Oil shakedown!

Good morning Mark,
Funny you should mention Shell. Shell's Regular at the time when I was still using pump gas was the only one that would pass the fuel check. Also at the time there was a list available that showed the amount of "gasoline" still left in the fuel and Shell had the highest amount! Also enjoyed your list of race cars, have a Great Day.

Respectfully,
Henry Kunz 1534 H/SA