Can We Un-ring The Bell

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by GUMP

I can't think of someone that I would want the NHRA to look at. I just haven't noticed a racer with a pattern that would warrant the attention.

Do you have someone in mind?

Now you're asking "loaded" questions! I'm not going to throw anyone under the bus.
EXCEPT for maybe Jeff with that 1 of 3 handmade spacer.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Now you're asking "loaded" questions! I'm not going to throw anyone under the bus.
EXCEPT for maybe Jeff with that 1 of 3 handmade spacer.

As more of an observer than racer lately, I can think of a few guys that I would start the electronic checking on, first.
No names from me of course.That's up to the current NHRA racers to help police this kind of thing. It doesn't look like NHRA cares much about this.

Remember the Div.4 guy with the Malibu? He won a couple of points meets in a row, before the Emmons boys made a point of observing the delay box action on the line.
No one else seemed to notice a thing.

On a similar note, maybe someone could tell me whether or not "drive by wire" is still legal in Stock? If it is , would it be possible for the high powered low 9 second FX cars to leave the line at, say 40% throttle, and then go WFO at a timed point down track?
Obviously carbed cars couldn't do this :-)

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

On a similar note, maybe someone could tell me whether or not "drive by wire" is still legal in Stock? If it is , would it be possible for the high powered low 9 second FX cars to leave the line at, say 40% throttle, and then go WFO at a timed point down track?
Obviously carbed cars couldn't do this :-)

Some of them have been doing that from the get-go! Easiest form of traction control. They aren't even using full throttle down track, they're spinning the tires past the eighth.

[e vassar]

Are we debating the ultimate class racing contradiction? Because I read over and over how out of whack the payouts and contingencys are compared to the cost of racing stk s/stk in the NHRA world. Most of us agree we do it because we love the cars,the people,the performance challenge,and chasing the Wally.
Maybe I'm just nieve, but it simply doesn't make sense to me to risk getting caught. I'm not talking about chamber CC or too light rods etc. I'm talking traction control, delay boxes,down track stutter,etc.

[Doug Hoven]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Some of them have been doing that from the get-go! Easiest form of traction control. They aren't even using full throttle down track, they're spinning the tires past the eighth.

As far as I know, the factory installed program on cobra jets until at least 2016 were not programmable to open the throttle greater down the track. However, once a racer upgrades to a something like a Holley system, they are able to do time-based throttle opening rate.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Some of them have been doing that from the get-go! Easiest form of traction control. They aren't even using full throttle down track, they're spinning the tires past the eighth.

With the MSD Grid, you can also do it with a carbureted engine.
Kill the timing on launch and kick it during the run.

https://www.holley.com/blog/post/go_...nition_system/

[Billy Nees]

What I'd like to know is how many Racers are actually "spot-dropping" and how many are using their ignition box, grid and data logger to determine an exact time and distance on the track to "drop". Something that the system is perfectly capable of doing. Again, I'll say "It's the 21ST Century. I tend to doubt that many very successful Racers are picking a pole or flag to "drop" on.

[Andys dad]

We have learned how to get the car to repeat within a hundredth of the prediction by using a self adjusting ECU tune depending on DA .. you need to use modern technology.

Good chassis design is key to consistency.

Tuneup is way more reliable method than counting or dropping. It does not "stretch" the rules.


Ron

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

What I'd like to know is how many Racers are actually "spot-dropping" and how many are using their ignition box, grid and data logger to determine an exact time and distance on the track to "drop". Something that the system is perfectly capable of doing. Again, I'll say "It's the 21ST Century. I tend to doubt that many very successful Racers are picking a pole or flag to "drop" on.

From what I heard thru the grapevine, ..easy enough to do . All starts with zero wheelspin..See my earlier post ;-)

[Shadylane]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

What I'd like to know is how many Racers are actually "spot-dropping" and how many are using their ignition box, grid and data logger to determine an exact time and distance on the track to "drop". Something that the system is perfectly capable of doing. Again, I'll say "It's the 21ST Century. I tend to doubt that many very successful Racers are picking a pole or flag to "drop" on.

You still have cut a light! But that’s a whole other story!