Can We Un-ring The Bell

[Larry Hill]

It’s our thread! It a discussion on how we would like, racing, to be. Most if not all power’s that be look at CR, SRAC, NHRA, manufacturers, sponsors, racers, and host of others. Everyone wants racing to be fair and fun!

[Billy Nees]

Just a heads-up, NHRA 2022 Rule Book, General Regulations, Sections 9;1, 9;2, 9;11. Read it yourself and decide what's legal.
You can download the whole book by clicking on NHRA Competition and clicking on Rules 2022 Rule Book.
Read it and decide for yourself.

[SSDiv6]

9:1 COMPUTER
A computer is defined as any device (electrical, mechanical,
pneumatic, hydraulic, etc.) that activates any function of,
or in any way affects the operation of, the vehicle based on
measurement, sensing, processing, etc. of any data related
to the performance of the vehicle. Except those installed on
stock vehicles by the new-vehicle manufacturer for the proper
operation of such vehicle, no vehicles may be equipped with
computers. Per Class Requirements, OEM or aftermarket
OEM-type electronic fuel injection permitted. Electronic fuel
injection must be closed, OEM-type system; i.e., may monitor
only engine functions. Monitoring of vehicle performance
criteria, wheel speed, driveshaft speed, vehicle acceleration,
etc. by fuel-injection system prohibited. Any form of torque
management (e.g., launch control, traction control, height
ignition correction, etc.) is prohibited. All related wiring, sensors,
etc. must be identifiable to the tech inspector. See General
Regulations 9:11 TRACTION CONTROL.

During NHRA competition, a portable computer (e.g., laptop,
PDA, Palm Pilot, programmer, etc.) must be securely mounted
when located in driver’s compartment at any point beyond the
staging area ready line. All functions or values must be preset
prior to this point.

Per Class Requirements, timed or rpm-activated shifters and
the like permitted, but all automated functions must be preset
before the run. Timer may display only timer amount dialed in;
analog or digital display permitted. Devices may be removed at
any time at discretion of NHRA Technical Department.

[SSDiv6]

9:2 DATA RECORDERS
Data recorders may be used (per Class Requirements) to record
functions of a vehicle so long as they do not activate any
function on the vehicle. All data recorders manufactured after
Jan. 1, 2006, must be NHRA-accepted. A current list of NHRA-
accepted data recorders is available on NHRARacer.com.
Fifth-wheel sensing devices prohibited on all vehicles (includes
wheelie-bar wheels). All lines sensing flow, pressure, etc. of fuel
or oil must be metallic or steel braided. Ride height sensors
prohibited unless specifically permitted by Class Requirements.
Cylinder pressure sensors prohibited in all classes.

Any device (mechanical, hydraulic, pneumatic, electrical, optical,
etc.) other than OEM-type that assists in determining track
location of the competitor’s own vehicle or opponent’s vehicle
is prohibited. Only OEM-style mirrors, mounted in conventional
fashion, permitted.

For non-OEM data recorder applications, the transmission or
display of any vehicle performance data (e.g., wheel speed,
driveshaft speed, vehicle acceleration, etc.) gathered or
processed by the data recorder, to the driver or any remote
location, during the run, is prohibited. This data may be reviewed
(printout, replay, etc.) only after the run. Discovery of a device
that displays, indicates, or transmits “on track,” “track location,”
or “elapsed time”-type data will be grounds for immediate
disqualification from the event, loss of all NHRA Camping World
Drag Racing Series or Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series points for
the season, and suspension from all NHRA Championship Drag
Racing events for remainder of season. Additional penalties may
be imposed at the discretion of NHRA. Devices may be removed
at any time at the discretion of the NHRA Technical Department.

[SSDiv6]

9:11 TRACTION CONTROL
Any type of traction-control device, electronic or mechanical, is
prohibited. A traction-control device is any unit or system that
uses live data to control functions of the vehicle, such as tire
slip, which are not controlled by the driver. These devices are,
but not limited to, timing control based on wheel, driveline, or
engine acceleration, braking control, throttle control, tire-shake
meters, vertical acceleration meters, misfire control, stutter
box, relays, and/or rpm-activated chips. See 9:10 TELEMETRY
DEVICES, 8:2 DELAY BOXES/DEVICES, 8:3 IGNITION, 9:1
COMPUTER.

[Lenny5160]

It's true; there are a lot of non-OEM-type mirrors in use out there.

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

9:11 TRACTION CONTROL
Any type of traction-control device, electronic or mechanical, is
prohibited. A traction-control device is any unit or system that
uses live data to control functions of the vehicle, such as tire
slip, which are not controlled by the driver. These devices are,
but not limited to, timing control based on wheel, driveline, or
engine acceleration, braking control, throttle control, tire-shake
meters, vertical acceleration meters, misfire control, stutter
box, relays, and/or rpm-activated chips. See 9:10 TELEMETRY
DEVICES, 8:2 DELAY BOXES/DEVICES, 8:3 IGNITION, 9:1
COMPUTER.

So does (Throttle) mean fuel control?

[west coast]

In 9:1 under computer
It says no vehicles may be equipped with
computers.

Then in the paragraph below that it says
During NHRA competition, a portable computer (e.g., laptop,
PDA, Palm Pilot, programmer, etc.) must be securely mounted
when located in driver’s compartment at any point beyond the
staging area ready line. All functions or values must be preset
prior to this point.

Kinda contradicts it self.
LOL

[FireSale]

Originally Posted by Barry Polley

So does (Throttle) mean fuel control?

The point is the driver drives the car. Your foot controls fuel flow. No device takes over and regulates the flow of fuel for you. Modern efi cars come with stuff like that from the factory. My S/SS friends with efi cars talk about fuel curves and I'm stuck with a 4150 even in SS Modified.
The boxes that drive for you are not "data loggers" data loggers record stuff to be read in the pits to improve that guesswork called racing.


On the topic of rule roll back, FWD conversion cars have no place in SS/GT or Modified. LS motors come in RWD cars and should not be allowed in FWD vehicles.There is just something wrong about a classic Nova staging against a Cobalt and being given the head start... Put them all in Altered