Explain to me again, please

[AJ Laferty]

SCCA gets around the parts availability problem by having a 30 year rule. No car older than 30 years in national competition in "Street" (which is the closest class to NHRA Stock). It does provide a progression to more modified classes as cars age out.

How many Stockers out there are older than 30 years compared to newer? Would you rather have a 30 year rule or pay $2K for lifters?

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by LASTNDN

SCCA gets around the parts availability problem by having a 30 year rule. No car older than 30 years in national competition in "Street" (which is the closest class to NHRA Stock). It does provide a progression to more modified classes as cars age out.

How many Stockers out there are older than 30 years compared to newer? Would you rather have a 30 year rule or pay $2K for lifters?

Good luck trying to get that to fly! The funny thing is, I (me, Billy Nees) would be OK with this. It would sure get NHRA's Natl. Event fields where they (NHRA) want them to be.

Let's look at this another way, "would you rather have a 30 year rule" or a valve spring rule?

[Dwight Southerland]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Let's look at this another way, "would you rather have a 30 year rule" or a valve spring rule?

NHRA started the "new" Stock Eliminator in 1972 with a 20 year rule and it didn't fly.

Valve spring rule gets my vote.

[Terry Cain]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

NHRA started the "new" Stock Eliminator in 1972 with a 20 year rule and it didn't fly.

Valve spring rule gets my vote.

remember, well. Run rollers gets my vote.

[Grey Ghost]

Originally Posted by Terry Cain

remember, well. Run rollers gets my vote.

Roller lifters have been OEM in many motors starting in the 1990s. There is probably 1/3+- of the current stockers using them now. Many if not all were originally hydraulic. It would be naive to believe cam grinders are not taking advantage of having a roller lifter for those motors. Other advantages of these combos are programmable ecu's and efi.
I don't believe rollers for everyone are another step towards SS. Having them available to all would take that advantage away from the "modern" combos.

[Terry Cain]

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

Roller lifters have been OEM in many motors starting in the 1990s. There is probably 1/3+- of the current stockers using them now. Many if not all were originally hydraulic. It would be naive to believe cam grinders are not taking advantage of having a roller lifter for those motors. Other advantages of these combos are programmable ecu's and efi.
I don't believe rollers for everyone are another step towards SS. Having them available to all would take that advantage away from the "modern" combos.

Just looked at entrees for Gators. Best I can count and tell, 31 flat tappet motors, the rest are rollers.

[Stan Weiss]

Let me say I don't have stocker. But from someone looking in from the outside.Stop adding band aids and put the stock back into stock racing. Since NHRA will not do its job of teching the cars / engines. Maybe you can get NHRA to let you self police yourselves and have a say in what rules you want.



Stan

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Terry Cain

remember, well. Run rollers gets my vote.

Terry, if I might ask here.. What combo is your car ? OEM hydraulics or solids?

[Terry Cain]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Terry, if I might ask here.. What combo is your car ? OEM hydraulics or solids?

BBC OEM Hydraulic

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Terry Cain

BBC OEM Hydraulic

Just a thought then. If you don't want to wait 6 mos. and spend $2100, why not put the last hyd. cam and lifters back in, for now? At least you could race your car.
;-)