Class of the Head

[GTX JOHN]

I have been quoted $13,000 complete for a top quality set of
state of the 340 Mopar Heads from a well know engine builder
who I respect very much if I could even find a set of Aluminun
Heads to start with.

I would rather spend the money on my Grandkids and if
I get beaten Heads Up = So be it!!

Thirty years ago - I bought my Demon Turn Key and running
well under the index for $5,500 right @ the Track after the
pass. Times have sure changed!!

If Stock/SS racing gets any more expensive we will be DONE after
almost 60 years.

[Race Clean]

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN

I have been quoted $13,000 complete for a top quality set of
state of the 340 Mopar Heads from a well know engine builder
who I respect very much if I could even find a set of Aluminun
Heads to start with.

If you deduct a hefty $3000 for valves,springs material for "machining" etc. just to be sure and pay $100 per hour for labour it would get you100hours of work.

Stock heads sure are bad out of the box nowdays

[Bruce Fulper]

Ya know it seems pretty doggone easy to me for NHRA to take care of ported Stocker heads, but I imagine they don't want to spend the money. They could mandate that they're going to procure 10 sets of heads. Average out those ten sets and call it a day. Sure, the first thing you're going to say is logistically and $$$$ wise that could be quite an investment.

But I'm sure there's some guys out there with castings and our shared attitude that would be glad to donate some stock castings for inspection. I know I have plenty of Pontiac castings, I'd LOVE to see a level playing field again.

Same with allowing Edelbrock heads. GET RID of THEM. I didn't work on my cast iron heads for five years to overnight have NHRA making a bunch of 428 guys heros. Some who never had a nine second ET slip in their life were running 9.20's overnight. Nope. Make everyone work with the same equipment.

And we all know 400 Stocker Pontiacs struggled to crack the tens for YEARS, and again, overnight, they're running 10.20's or better.

C'mon NHRA ~ Take five or ten sets of factory heads and average out their port sizes. Put your foot down.

[Stan Weiss]

Wasn't there a rumor a few years ago that NHRA bought faro arm to check heads?

Stan

[Rusty Gillis]

That's why I stopped racing NHRA back in the 90's. I was racing in C/SA with my 428 Mustang and was about .3 and 3 MPH from the quickest 428's. I was told to be competitive I needed acid ported heads and intake. Cost was $5000 for heads and $3000 for intake back then.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Bruce Fulper

C'mon NHRA ~ Take five or ten sets of factory heads and average out their port sizes. Put your foot down.

Not ever,ever,ever, gonna happen. We're not worth that investment and they don't have the man-power to do it anyway anymore.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Not ever,ever,ever, gonna happen. We're not worth that investment and they don't have the man-power to do it anyway anymore.

I know that's right.
Most sat back and watched it happen or joined in.. I hope y'all enjoy spending your retirement or kids' inheritance.. ;-)

[jamie2370]

If the head ports CC correct and the chamber CC correct and they look "as cast" there is no policing they can do. Reshaping, welding, and coverup work of bowls and runners, shaving intake side of head to bring CC's down when runners are enlarged, cutting bottom of heads to bring bowl back to specs after you unshrouded the valves and covered it up.....Am I getting close? lol oh and of course the intake has no measurements in the book so "as cast" is good enough even if it's bigger than a sheetmetal intake lol. When one car can run to 6800 at the shift and the other falls over at 6200, same casting numbers, same cam and valvetrain, same trans/converter, same rear gear etc etc.....someone if moving more air thru there air pump(engine) Anyone that says this is not being done is lying to their self. Round trackers been doing it for decades. The question is ??? if you can't beat them, join them??

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by jamie2370

The question is ??? if you can't beat them, join them??

Nope!
Just another good reason to keep running my one-off, oddball junk.