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Old 04-13-2008, 10:26 AM   #1
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I was wondering where that 64 Plymouth was. I enjoyed seeing it at Indy a few years back. I think NHRA is crazy to do this to these cars. I also disagree with what they have done to the 68 car. Why not givve the guys that have a car that conforms to SS rules the chance to run SS/AA if they want to.Why have to compete with the SS/AH cars if you don't want to spend that kind of money or don't have it to spend. Those 64 cars put a great show on NHRA leave them alone and let them run.
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Old 04-13-2008, 05:39 PM   #2
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After many years of these cars being allowed the heavier steel components, WHY the change in the rules. Could there be a competitor with another brand car got tired of loosing class & made a "political" move? If that is the case...what an easy way to get rid of your class competition.... Shame,Shame
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Old 04-13-2008, 05:44 PM   #3
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After many years of these cars being allowed the heavier steel components, WHY the change in the rules. Could there be a competitor with another brand car got tired of loosing class & made a "political" move? If that is the case...what an easy way to get rid of your class competition.... Shame,Shame
I hope that's not the case Adger. It'd be sort of like the guys who did that to Tony Rhodes and Scott Wilcox with the 67 L-88 Corvettes. It'll be a damned shame if the Hemis get the same treatment.
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Old 04-14-2008, 02:18 PM   #4
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Chuck, I'd love to own a 64-65 Race Hemi car, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. I didn't mean to make light of the situation. I'm all for maintaining the purity of the sport, but if something has been allowed, it shouldn't be taken away, especially when it is of no advantage, and probably a disadvantage. I'd rather see steel replacing aluminum before carbon fiber replacing fiberglass.
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I got an e-mail from David Hakim that he was working with Wesley to get the classification guide changed back. Sure, we'd all love to have an aluminum car. I'd love to have the $10k-$20k that the fenders and hood would cost too! NHRA legalized the Edelbrock heads for Stock and SS to reduce the cost of finding old, wore out heads. Now they turn around and do this. It's hard enough to find parts for 45 year old cars, let alone small production run pieces. I'm thinking about a MW engine now and a flat, steel hood. The new Hemi block I picked up on Saturday is a $3000 paper weight. It only took eight months to get.
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:57 AM   #6
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Since the expense of the parts is out of this world why wouldnt fiber glass replacements be legalized for original Aluminum on all brands. The wt wouldnt seem to be less. The availabilty would make them cheaper. Then the AL parts could be protected in the garage and the cost of repairs would be reasonable. I have heard of AL fenders and hoods torn up by motor explosions and THOUSANDS of $ spent to repair the stock AL parts. To me this seems a desirable rule change to make these cars more affordable. They are a BIG part of the SS history and current show. Other brands might also need this to become affordable.
This seems to be a common sense rule much along the line of aftermarket heads, al heads, aftermarket carbs. They are not available to purchase. THE WEIGHT of the car still would enforced as the same....SS and S need these cars for the show.
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:02 PM   #7
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All good points. Dave Wren still has the aluminum nose 63 Max Wedge Plymouth that he R/U`d at the 68 Winternationals with, and ocassionally bracket races it at Mission, but he told me that the thought of somebody banging into the car is a real concern. Pretty much non existent for replacement parts! I guess thats why he normally runs a 62 Max Wedge clone.
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Since the expense of the parts is out of this world why wouldnt fiber glass replacements be legalized for original Aluminum on all brands. The wt wouldnt seem to be less. The availabilty would make them cheaper. Then the AL parts could be protected in the garage and the cost of repairs would be reasonable. I have heard of AL fenders and hoods torn up by motor explosions and THOUSANDS of $ spent to repair the stock AL parts. To me this seems a desirable rule change to make these cars more affordable. They are a BIG part of the SS history and current show. Other brands might also need this to become affordable.
This seems to be a common sense rule much along the line of aftermarket heads, al heads, aftermarket carbs. They are not available to purchase. THE WEIGHT of the car still would enforced as the same....SS and S need these cars for the show.
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NHRA legalized the Edelbrock heads for Stock and SS to reduce the cost of finding old, wore out heads.
Nothing against the poster ...and sorry for high jacking....but that cant be the case....the shortage is way more severe for some that dont get them than most they do get them...

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Old 04-18-2008, 04:21 PM   #10
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Nothing against the poster ...and sorry for high jacking....but that cant be the case....the shortage is way more severe for some that dont get them than most they do get them...
Well, that was my thoughts for the Edelbrock heads. I wish they picked heads that at least looked closer to a stock head. I certainly don't pretend to understand NHRA in their thinking.

Dick: I'd love to see an aluminum nosed Z-11 or swiss cheese Poncho out there. That was the heyday of Stock and SS. I hope NHRA remembers that two of the Pro classes came out of SS - FC and PRO.

I'd be in favor of heavy (durable) fiberglass that was equal weight to the aluminum, but I think their would be too much bitching about it. Just let us poor folk run the steel equivalents.
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