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Old 05-01-2022, 10:35 AM   #1
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I guess some of you did not care to read this part of my post. Oh well, I knew I was asking the impossible... trying to get racers to agree any anything in Stk/SS is a waste of time. So guys, lets just make it a bash NHRA thread, its looks like that's what some of you really want.

At least I tried, you couldn't pay me enough to Lonnie's job. I can't imagine what he thinks of us now. James Schaechter's post was well thought out, and gave me hope, but some of you guys.... well I just don't get.

God help Stock and Super Stock.
I really appreciate your efforts Ken. Speaking on Stock I do think more emphasis On Qualifying would be helpful. Weather in terms of a point structure, sponsorship money or something else beyond my pay scale in experience and expertise. I feel if AHFS is to be effective then having some importance on the Q ladder needs to be established. I know the Bye round can be an incentive but it's also unpredictable if there will even be a Bye when trying to factor for 80 plus cars. That is why so many try to land in the bottom of the top half, better odds your opponent may have had problems or be broke and no AHFS trigger or raising of the average.
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Old 05-01-2022, 10:50 AM   #2
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I think a 64 car qualified would be interesting. Even if there wasn't a quota,I'm thinking there would be some races where they don't even get 64.Then what? A 32 car qualified field?
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Old 05-01-2022, 11:17 AM   #3
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I don't get the idea of raising the entry fee when it's too much already. Back when I started racing, there were 20 cars just in my class, so here again I don't get the quotas of 60 cars or less in Stock.
I think that the home division hosting the national event, that that division racer gets 24 hour preference to enter, then the rest of divisions can enter.
NHRA say that they will pay the S/SS the extra money with the higher entry, I don't believe it, NHRA will find a way to divert to everything but the racer.

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Old 05-01-2022, 07:54 PM   #4
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I think that the home division hosting the national event, that that division racer gets 24 hour preference to enter, then the rest of divisions can enter.


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Yes, but first let me say, this isn't about ME. I'm not a player here.
This is about Joe Lunchpail that supported NHRA Nat's, Divs. and paid his dues for 50 years. Now retired, and didn't inherit the golden wallet. He now finds himself unable to play the g.p. game.

Maybe so many years or back history required, ONE g.p., this year or last, then he gets 3 days early entry window for the closest National meet .

In other words...NHRA } Dance with the one who brung ya.
(hope that didn't sound critical )
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Old 05-01-2022, 08:44 PM   #5
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As far as increasing entry fees and payouts, I'd be in favor of larger payouts at the 3rd round on up. Even if it's not significant. I mean for some classes 3rd round is either a Final or Semi Final. They pay the same entry as us 7 rounders.
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Old 05-01-2022, 08:49 PM   #6
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I can tell you this much. Money 💰 talks. In D4 a few years ago we had 6-8 Comp cars show up. Now we have 25-30 and Ennis is coming up and we probably will have 35-40. A qualifying bonus program was installed and there’s a pot of cash 💰 waiting the top-10 at the end of the season. It’s all about the money. More money more racers!
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Old 05-01-2022, 09:09 PM   #7
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(1) Let’s start with increasing the car Quota at Nationals.
(2) Let’s go back to Tech and Looking at cars.
(3) We need to work with NHRA to help improve sportsman racing.
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Old 05-02-2022, 08:03 AM   #8
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I have mixed feelings on raising entry fee. I know class racing isn't for the budget minded, but an extra 100 on top of 6+ dollars a gallon for fuel is a hard hit at this time. I also oppose dropping 3rd round money.

I would rather increase the quota where you have to qualify to get in, that would bring more money in, and would bring the performance back into a performance based class if you have to step it up to get in.

I would also like to see points or money awarded to #1 qualifiers and setting the record. Also I still can't understand why no one has asked why we can't get records published in ND even if its only twice a year. I did send a couple emails last year but they never got answered.
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