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Old 06-27-2022, 11:16 AM   #1
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It use to be a BIG THING! Early days you would get National points for it! Now only bracket laps count! Hmmm
Lack of appreciation by NHRA and zero incentives. In short, the bean counters at NHRA got what they wanted. It cost money for them to support record setting. The decision makers are not racers they are accountants. They want to collect money from membership for services that they don’t provide. They don’t want to spend money.

As far as the ability to tear down. I am sure that most racers would find a way to learn or get support if setting a record was of benefit to them.

We have set a lot of records, but not so much lately. We used to scout through the records list. It was really an inexpensive source of recognition that drove a lot of people to proactively work on their cars, chase the best races to set records, etc. if the execs at NHRA wanted this they could easily fix it.
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Old 06-27-2022, 12:31 PM   #2
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It is disappointing that they don't recognize records like they once did in Dragster. They do list them on nhraracer.com and of course you still get the certificate. My 18-year-old son and myself had the pleasure of setting the D/SA record last fall at Indy and it was a really cool father-son thing for us to experience.
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Old 06-27-2022, 08:24 PM   #3
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Lack of appreciation by NHRA and zero incentives. In short, the bean counters at NHRA got what they wanted. It cost money for them to support record setting. The decision makers are not racers they are accountants. They want to collect money from membership for services that they don’t provide. They don’t want to spend money.

As far as the ability to tear down. I am sure that most racers would find a way to learn or get support if setting a record was of benefit to them.

We have set a lot of records, but not so much lately. We used to scout through the records list. It was really an inexpensive source of recognition that drove a lot of people to proactively work on their cars, chase the best races to set records, etc. if the execs at NHRA wanted this they could easily fix it.
Several years ago, I put together a proposal to NHRA to incentivize records and put the performance aspect back into S/SS. They weren’t interested. The other reason was they told me 80% of the s/SS reps DIDNT want it either. I think I still have the emails. So there you go your competition doesn’t want it.

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Old 06-27-2022, 10:36 PM   #4
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Several years ago, I put together a proposal to NHRA to incentivize records and put the performance aspect back into S/SS. They weren’t interested. The other reason was they told me 80% of the s/SS reps DIDNT want it either. I think I still have the emails. So there you go your competition doesn’t want it.

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Maybe someone like Bill Bader jr will buy NHRA and treat the sport as its truly intended. Hence implement mantras what made it it great, instead of pushing towards a low maintenance handicap race. We use to call it Bowling for Dollar$. Comp motor please hurry...
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Old 06-28-2022, 03:14 PM   #5
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Several years ago, I put together a proposal to NHRA to incentivize records and put the performance aspect back into S/SS. They weren’t interested. The other reason was they told me 80% of the s/SS reps DIDNT want it either. I think I still have the emails. So there you go your competition doesn’t want it.

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That’s funny, I don’t remember getting asked or polled if I wanted that. Guess it never got pass the reps at the time
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That’s funny, I don’t remember getting asked or polled if I wanted that. Guess it never got pass the reps at the time
I think I sent the ideas I had to Bobby Fazio. Pretty sure he has the emails now.
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