PJ1 shortage

[Adub464Q]

Originally Posted by BKSG1198

It's basically all glue that is becoming an issue, PJH & VP. VP has come out with a new formula of glue that needs more attention than most stuff. It basically bypasses the chemical that they would get from Germany. In the past for cars like ours (Stk/SS, .90) it was spray the full 1320 in the morning and drag or rotate the rest of the days to keep the glue where it needs to be, with adding gold dust and a small mist to the starting line to cover bald spots. The new VP needs to be drug, rotated and cars going down as a normal pace for it to work properly. They have been using the new VP at Cecil this past weekend and mixing it with PJH to come up with a formula that could work but, still trying to find the right mix. They were spraying and dragging on a regular basis after almost every qualifying group of .90. The chemical that is missing that that "stick" they keep the cars glued to the track and pulls your shoes off when you're walking. I have heard that Atco & Leb Valley have plenty of glue but, some other tracks have already called me about going to 1/8 mile until they can get some in.

There is nothing wrong with the VP stuff, it just takes a different approach as you detail. What we have realized with our local tracks (Ardmore/XRP) is that it take a lot of dragging on the VP compound to make it work correctly. You cannot just spray some glue down, that makes it even worse and will make it slick as ever.

With all this traction compound talk lately, I think we are forgetting the responsibility of the organizations and the tracks. Their responsibility of the track surface is to make it SAFE, not to make it the best starting line of all time. It is the drivers/cars responsibility to make the car work with the track.

The above often gets lost when people start complaining about track prep.

[Keith 944]

Originally Posted by Adub464Q

There is nothing wrong with the VP stuff, it just takes a different approach as you detail. What we have realized with our local tracks (Ardmore/XRP) is that it take a lot of dragging on the VP compound to make it work correctly. You cannot just spray some glue down, that makes it even worse and will make it slick as ever.

With all this traction compound talk lately, I think we are forgetting the responsibility of the organizations and the tracks. Their responsibility of the track surface is to make it SAFE, not to make it the best starting line of all time. It is the drivers/cars responsibility to make the car work with the track.

The above often gets lost when people start complaining about track prep.

What we are seeing here is more down track. starting line can be dealt with and at this point is still working manageability

[Regan Wilson]

Originally Posted by Adub464Q

There is nothing wrong with the VP stuff, it just takes a different approach as you detail. What we have realized with our local tracks (Ardmore/XRP) is that it take a lot of dragging on the VP compound to make it work correctly. You cannot just spray some glue down, that makes it even worse and will make it slick as ever.

With all this traction compound talk lately, I think we are forgetting the responsibility of the organizations and the tracks. Their responsibility of the track surface is to make it SAFE, not to make it the best starting line of all time. It is the drivers/cars responsibility to make the car work with the track.

The above often gets lost when people start complaining about track prep.

Austin I accidentally came off the throttle stop in low gear the first pass when I was at XRP. It didn't spin although next thing I know it was banging the chip. I recently found out D4 had been using VP at the Division races most of the year.

[BKSG1198]

Originally Posted by Adub464Q

There is nothing wrong with the VP stuff, it just takes a different approach as you detail. What we have realized with our local tracks (Ardmore/XRP) is that it take a lot of dragging on the VP compound to make it work correctly. You cannot just spray some glue down, that makes it even worse and will make it slick as ever.

With all this traction compound talk lately, I think we are forgetting the responsibility of the organizations and the tracks. Their responsibility of the track surface is to make it SAFE, not to make it the best starting line of all time. It is the drivers/cars responsibility to make the car work with the track.

The above often gets lost when people start complaining about track prep.

Austin, I totally agree but, when you have tracks who only run one glue and their staff are set on running one glue and they switch to a new type, it takes some time for them to adjust. A few years back a track that only ran PJ1 was running low, I donated 3 drums of VPLC7 and I had to hear their starter complaining all weekend about it, I'm like I understand it's not what you normally use but, find a way to make it work to your liking.

The past weekend seemed to be higher MPH .90 cars but, we also had a ton of rain on Saturday Night and temps in the 90's (I know that's a cool day compared to you guys in Texas at 110..lol) but, I know the tracks are trying to figure out a good mix still for the temps. I believe they were mixing VP & PJH together to formulate something and we're keeping up on the track on a regular basis. It's going to be a learning curve for a lot of tracks in the next few months to figure out what works and what doesn't.