The mines are now closed (AHFS)

[GTX JOHN]

Originally Posted by jamie2370

About time. Bryan Worner would be loving this right now. But to listen to everyone whine about it being a performance based class then to whine when they allow you to run what you want without immediate penalties is crazy. YOU control what YOUR average is no matter what you run. I am sure there are some 350 tpi camaros that wish this was in place when an accidental 1.24 under completely killed the combo that is now a .8-.9 at best combo. As far as the illegal cars running the avg up.....all it takes is money and balls. Put up the protest money and have them torn down and deemed legal. Swallowing your pride does not cause indigestion. Quit whining about it and do something.

NO TEAR DOWN on PROTESTS allowed ever in Div. 7 per
theDiv. Director

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN

NO TEAR DOWN or PROTESTS allowed ever in Div. 7 per
theDiv. Director

Time to call Huckster & Finagle, attorneys at law

[Adub464Q]

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN

NO TEAR DOWN or PROTESTS allowed ever in Div. 7 per
theDiv. Director

Is this a joke?

[Race Clean]

"All runs count for end of year average"

Averages just have to go away completely,what have been screwing up AHFS the whole time is that you could play the averages.
They just have to come up with something smarter

It needs to be about Drag Racing and not about playing a stupid game called protecting a combo!

[Ryan Horensky]

Originally Posted by Race Clean

"All runs count for end of year average"

Averages just have to go away completely, what have been screwing up AHFS the whole time is that you could play the averages.
They just have to come up with something smarter

It needs to be about Drag Racing and not about playing a stupid game called protecting a combo!

I wouldn't exactly call someone protecting their combo a stupid game. People have a lot of money and time invested in their particular combinations. I don't think I've ever met a stock/super stock racer who didn't try to protect their combo in one way or another. It doesn't matter what structure is in place. People are going to protect what they got.

[Mark Yacavone]

Oh well. I had heard about the big fix for the AHFS recently.
I have to say I'm disappointed.
I had expected that maybe they would do something to stop all the 1000' runs, like maybe lowering the indexes a couple of tenths.
It seems to me that this will only encourage more sandbagging, and I use the term with reverence. We've all done it, since about the time the FWD cars were added.
Today, lots of RWD combos are about a second faster, thanks to technology and all the goodies added.

I would have hoped NHRA would see this and do something appropriate .

Somebody please tell me how this is going to help much of anything?

[james schaechter]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Oh well. I had heard about the big fix for the AHFS recently.
I have to say I'm disappointed.
I had expected that maybe they would do something to stop all the 1000' runs, like maybe lowering the indexes a couple of tenths.
It seems to me that this will only encourage more sandbagging, and I use the term with reverence. We've all done it, since about the time the FWD cars were added.
Today, lots of RWD combos are about a second faster, thanks to technology and all the goodies added.

I would have hoped NHRA would see this and do something appropriate .

Somebody please tell me how this is going to help much of anything?

That is easy! It reduces the NHRA Tech dept expense for teardown.

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Oh well. I had heard about the big fix for the AHFS recently.
I have to say I'm disappointed.
I had expected that maybe they would do something to stop all the 1000' runs, like maybe lowering the indexes a couple of tenths.
It seems to me that this will only encourage more sandbagging, and I use the term with reverence. We've all done it, since about the time the FWD cars were added.
Today, lots of RWD combos are about a second faster, thanks to technology and all the goodies added.

I would have hoped NHRA would see this and do something appropriate .

Somebody please tell me how this is going to help much of anything?

Mark all they would have needed to do was drop the index's a tenth. Now in a heads up no one has to worry about going more than 1.20 under. If you have enough cars running your combo it's pretty easy to keep the average under .85 under. BP

[Race Clean]

Originally Posted by Ryan Horensky

I wouldn't exactly call someone protecting their combo a stupid game. People have a lot of money and time invested in their particular combinations. I don't think I've ever met a stock/super stock racer who didn't try to protect their combo in one way or another. It doesn't matter what structure is in place. People are going to protect what they got.

That people will protect what they invested if they can is a "No-Brainer" and that was not my point, it was that you shouldn't have to call Glendora and ask about the averages your combo have before a race and that you should not have a possibility to roll back your average with sandbagging.
It should be all about how fast a combo can be "legally" of course and nothing else for the factoring.


It's NHRA's game

p.s Yes I liked the old times netter