Good news! R&P Steering legal in SS/AH

[SSDA Hemi]

Originally Posted by James Hensler

Ok they allowed the R&P but without aftermarket spindles no one is going to change! I have personally talked to several and they all said the same thing NO WAY IM CHANGING

James, reread Spy's post above. He IS updating to R$P as will others. Get ready as soon as they show its worth something besides safety..... Keeping up with the Joneses or eat their dust......

Originally Posted by Dyno

look around at the GT and Modified classes and what is allowed and explain this to us! QA1 makes a great front subframe for the class to run, mine is on order. (LOL). Dyno. Dan Zrust SS/AH and A/SA.

Dan as I stated in my first post, my buddy runs a '60 corvette in modified and has to run stock steering and "safety"?!! More like "antiquated"!! Modified I could see allowing a Rack as others. SS/AH is like the Thunderbolts and RO51 cars, built specifically for Super Stock and traditional SS is massaged as was built from factory.

Originally Posted by Spyphish

Dan is right. In 2009 when my car was built a group had signed a letter about steering etc. My Aug. email was answered as " we are already considering it". Thanks for the ego trip, thinking I am somebody. Phish

Considering being head of PGA. New rule, your ball lands on the green, pick ball up, add 1 stroke, move on.

The SS/AH players at the front has changed significantly since 2009. More left than returned and did they leave due to a safety issue over the steering box or linkage? Or ? Many competitive SS/AH cars just parked, some for sale some.... getting antiquated over R&D hp developments or now R$P updates.....

What is the real safety issue here, fear of broken steering box or centerlink through oil pan. I addressed the weak box issue, if its centerlink through oil pan everyone with that application should be fearful and needs this update.

If this rule change was along the lines of SS racing I could stomach it. The days of "everyone gets a trophy" are not acceptable to me. Changing ball on green, Rack and pinion, Hell, lets rewrite the 10 commandments and let me have some fun with the neighbors model wife while we're at it......

[SSDA Hemi]

I will race SS/AH regardless of this rule change. Concentrate on the eliminator and hopefully bucket list drive in Hemi parade. Thanks NHRA!

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

[bubski]

Originally Posted by SSDA Hemi

James, reread Spy's post above. He IS updating to R$P as will others. Get ready as soon as they show its worth something besides safety..... Keeping up with the Joneses or eat their dust......



Dan as I stated in my first post, my buddy runs a '60 corvette in modified and has to run stock steering and "safety"?!! More like "antiquated"!! Modified I could see allowing a Rack as others. SS/AH is like the Thunderbolts and RO51 cars, built specifically for Super Stock and traditional SS is massaged as was built from factory.




The SS/AH players at the front has changed significantly since 2009. More left than returned and did they leave due to a safety issue over the steering box or linkage? Or ? Many competitive SS/AH cars just parked, some for sale some.... getting antiquated over R&D hp developments or now R$P updates.....

What is the real safety issue here, fear of broken steering box or centerlink through oil pan. I addressed the weak box issue, if its centerlink through oil pan everyone with that application should be fearful and needs this update.

If this rule change was along the lines of SS racing I could stomach it. The days of "everyone gets a trophy" are not acceptable to me. Changing ball on green, Rack and pinion, Hell, lets rewrite the 10 commandments and let me have some fun with the neighbors model wife while we're at it......

Bubski would like to say Bravo !! A man that makes sense !! Bubski would also like to say first and foremost !! Make it illegal to grind , butcher , whatever to your STEERING BOX its a critical component of your vehicle for yours and everyone else's safety !! Don't treat it like your Stocker heads and intake !! leave it the way it was designed and brace it accordingly !! If the thought of ultimate center link failure still haunts you !! Maybe you can install a steel tube in the pan to protect it !! Bubski's thinking most OEM center links are tougher than the hinges of Hell ,and the rods if they do exit the block come out along the length of it not perpendicular to it so as to cut it in half !! Lots of SS cars have center links thru pans and Bubski can't ever recall a steering failure due to engine breakage in the past !! Bubski's sure if it happened in the past this topic would've already been on Class Racer asking for a change for that combo !! Isn't it just good common sense and financially sound to leave the steering unmodified as produced and just go racing ?? Cheers !!

[James Hensler]

I saw that Hebert is going to try to switch over I’m just really interested as to how they intend to deal with the stock spindles.

[Spyphish]

Originally Posted by james hensler

i saw that hebert is going to try to switch over i’m just really interested as to how they intend to deal with the stock spindles.

classified

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Spyphish

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Switch them from side-to-side! Duh!

Meaning the ball joints that bolt to the spindles.

[James Hensler]

I have seen a mock up pic but it look butchered

[Truth Slayer]

Sounds like the racers that feel their connecting rods and other parts are gong to come out of the oil pan and damage steering components during a run should start with a more basic idea for safety.
Find a better engine builder. Or maybe an oil filter cutting tool and use it before the connecting rod does the job for you. Check a bearing here or there during the weekend.
Changing rules for a whole class to make up for a racer or 2 with sporadic engine trouble seems to be extreme.
What racers that run this class wrote the letters for this rule? I’m thinking the 2 guys on here that support it did, and the other guy who is speaking out doesn’t? They took the letters of 2 guys and made a major rule change? What does the other participants feel about this?

[James Hensler]

Originally Posted by Truth Slayer

Sounds like the racers that feel their connecting rods and other parts are gong to come out of the oil pan and damage steering components during a run should start with a more basic idea for safety.
Find a better engine builder. Or maybe an oil filter cutting tool and use it before the connecting rod does the job for you. Check a bearing here or there during the weekend.
Changing rules for a whole class to make up for a racer or 2 with sporadic engine trouble seems to be extreme.
What racers that run this class wrote the letters for this rule? I’m thinking the 2 guys on here that support it did, and the other guy who is speaking out doesn’t? They took the letters of 2 guys and made a major rule change? What does the other participants feel about this?

You can quote me right now

I did not ask anyone for a rule change! I have enough on my plate getting my engines freshened up! I am not changing over as of right now!

[Doug Walker]

Originally Posted by Truth Slayer

What does the other participants feel about this?

As I read the various comments as they get posted I can figure out just who is who by their names. Most of the time. Most of us know who is behind the stage names of SpyPhish, Dyno, Frito and SS/DA Hemi.

Others choose a name that is a total mystery. When the writer uses a stage name like Hacksaw, bubski or Truth Slayer, he gets to enjoy near total anonymity. They might be SS/AH participants or somehow involved in the class. We just don't know.

The comments may be well thought out but eventually get dismissed since nobody signed their name to the work.