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Old 01-06-2023, 10:02 AM   #1
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That said, get Jimmy to fix your stuff so you can be next on the list...
Settle down there wild man. You gotta get past me first.


Lets talk about what makes this matchup fun.

To start, Both cars are stated 302 cubic inches.
Both will run with respective 350 NHRA Rated Combinations.

Daren's is a 2023 with the LT1 DI head running with Port Injection
My CJ can be either a 2013 or 2014 which is a 4 cam, 4 valve head Coyote engine.

Daren is running a Metric 200 Trans and Radial Tires
My car has a 5 speed G Force trans and I have bias tires

Daren says he has run a best of a 9.91 ET at a "high" DA Don't know how heavy he was but I think that he ran that in FS/F
My best ever with my car was a 10.11 with the 325 Combination. That was at the NMCA race in St Louis 2021. The DA was 1635' and with a 1.02 correction factor. I was 30 pounds over FS/H weight.

Daren says his engine makes 600 ish Horsepower at the crankshaft.on the Holley DTS Dyno. I haven't verified that but I think that is accurate.

I've played with my older 350 Combination and made the following numbers at the Crankshaft.

596 on First Engine I bought from Bo Butner on Holley Dyno back in 2017
615 on a Stuska with DEPAC at West Dyno near me 4 years ago
590 On current engine on Brian Wolfe's Superflow 901 2 years ago

As we know dyno's are relative. It's the track that counts.

Recent testing on the chassis dyno showed some promise with the intake and throttle body swap.

We have bantered about how close these combinations are to each other on paper.
This should be fun

Here are my current Rear Wheel Horsepower Numbers

The red line is my current 325 HP 2012 Setup with the stock intake and throttle body.
The blue line is a few days later with the Intake and throttle body for the 350 combination.

Enjoy

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Old 01-25-2023, 08:03 PM   #2
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I've been trying to get in touch with Robin. Anyone know the phone number to the nursing home?
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Old 01-25-2023, 08:44 PM   #3
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I don’t know who to cheer for but dislike the the brands on an equal basis. They are just two corporate carpetbaggers, I mean Sandbaggers. A new 632 rated at 267 Hp is just a touch light.
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I don’t know who to cheer for but dislike the the brands on an equal basis.
Larry, you need a Neon so that WE can trash-talk like this! Might have to remove the front seat. Is that legal in Stock?
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Larry, you need a Neon so that WE can trash-talk like this! Might have to remove the front seat. Is that legal in Stock?
Billy, does it have to be a Neon, and can we find a sea level track?
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I don’t know who to cheer for but dislike the the brands on an equal basis. They are just two corporate carpetbaggers, I mean Sandbaggers. A new 632 rated at 267 Hp is just a touch light.
I hope that you aren't using the term "sandbaggers" in a negative way. LOL

I studied the specs in the guide for a couple of years before settling on a "Soft" combination.

They are out there, The new cars haven't been killed like every Camaro that people want to run.

Only a few willing to run the 4 valve Ford, and even less that put a stick shift behind it. Call me crazy, oh wait. Call me a sandbagger.

It's like the Blinder discussion that never dies, read the rules, understand the limits and build/race to the parameters that are in place.

Have a great day!

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Billy I think seat removal is ok on a 2019 Challenger if equipped with the seat delete package. The Neon I don’t know.

Robin your a brave man, because you are one chain link away from a disaster. Your engine has enough bicycle chain to stretch from my house to your house.

Good luck to both we are looking forward to the show. Is it true that the looser will have the White House Press Secretary answer the questions on why they lost?
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Robin your a brave man, because you are one chain link away from a disaster. Your engine has enough bicycle chain to stretch from my house to your house.

Good luck to both we are looking forward to the show. Is it true that the looser will have the White House Press Secretary answer the questions on why they lost?
Dammit Larry, you had to bring up my timing chains. They seem to have more issues with the shorter secondary chains (ask Bob Tilton)

It makes sense to toss new chains on these things annually just to be safe. Last I looked they were on back order.

When Daren got off the boat he called and asked if i was going to make serious changes. I told him nah, maybe some new spark plugs.......


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…Is it true that the looser will have the White House Press Secretary answer the questions on why they lost?
Perhaps questions will be referred to the counsel’s office, or bubski…
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