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Old 01-12-2023, 04:53 AM   #1
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Unfortunately D7 racers have only four (4) tracks participating within their LODRS schedule with three doubles. The Open schedule has two (2) tracks, three races with one double.
Long tows, big division. Expensive.
Same could be said for D6 and even others Frank. $5-7 diesel is with us for quite a while longer it appears so have to wonder if local associations and even bracket programs will benefit. I’m even beginning to wonder if there is a possibility that AZ will not fill at 70, which of course will prompt NHRA to say “See, you wanted higher quotas and then you didn’t support”. Good news for those with with fewer GP’s of course so obviously hope it does fill. Regardless, all the “big” events will continue to require GP8 to get in. The Quota deal is going to big a huge topic of discussion this year.
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Old 01-12-2023, 08:43 AM   #2
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Yes D6 and D5 racers also have challenges collecting Grade Points, D4 racers also have long tows but are among some the most loyal racers competing. Ron Ortiz stated in D2 if you live in south Florida it's a long tow to many races. D3 geographically is fairly tight with good opportunities.
The moral of the story is why has the N.H.R.A. lowered the quotas and placed a hardship on so many racers?
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Old 01-12-2023, 09:41 AM   #3
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The moral of the story is why has the N.H.R.A. lowered the quotas and placed a hardship on so many racers?
Because in NHRA's opinion we're (Sportsmen Racers) not the show.
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Old 01-12-2023, 12:41 PM   #4
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Because in NHRA's opinion we're (Sportsmen Racers) not the show.
Gentlemen, Let us not forget NHRA is in the entertainment business and not in racing. Its like F1- about the show and not the racing or competition. Their goal is to make money and sell TV adverting to the mASSES.

Revoke the non- profit and make them pull back the curtain and lets see what is really going on. Sorry, I just woke up from a dream (nightmare).
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Class Racing may not be the "Show" but a major source of revenue for the sanctioning body.
I believe it's the greatest car "show" in America.
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Gentlemen, Let us not forget NHRA is in the entertainment business and not in racing. Its like F1- about the show and not the racing or competition. Their goal is to make money and sell TV adverting to the mASSES.
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^is not MY problem! As A member/associate/business partner/investor (pick whichever one you're comfortable with) I SHOULD BE entitled to the same privileges as any other dues paying person/Racer. Maybe it's time for them to stop hiding their dog-and-pony show behind the guise of a not-for-profit!
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This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^is not MY problem! As A member/associate/business partner/investor (pick whichever one you're comfortable with) I SHOULD BE entitled to the same privileges as any other dues paying person/Racer. Maybe it's time for them to stop hiding their dog-and-pony show behind the guise of a not-for-profit!
Exactly my point. 100% agree.
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Too late for 70 on the gators?
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Gentlemen, Let us not forget NHRA is in the entertainment business and not in racing. Its like F1- about the show and not the racing or competition. Their goal is to make money and sell TV adverting to the mASSES.

Revoke the non- profit and make them pull back the curtain and lets see what is really going on. Sorry, I just woke up from a dream (nightmare).



As NHRA continues to add classes, seeking to find "the next new thing" and "draw the new, young crowd", they will find that it costs them their core fans, and their core racers. Their attempt to "be everything to everyone" will be an abject failure.




Honestly, the ONLY that saves them with Stock and Super Stock racers is the large portion of the group that is convinced that they receive the greatest "prestige" from paying large sums of money to NHRA for a 1 in 50 to 1 in 70 chance at a Wally.


What people need desperately to understand is that, if Bo Butner puts on a Stock/Super Stock race with NHRA tech, a week after an NHRA event, and you race the same 5-7 racers at Bo's race that you did at the NHRA race, the real prestige is the same, the only difference is Bo paid you more and treated you better.


If you can't collect enough grade points to get into a National event, and you can't collect enough points to win a championship, or you have decided not to chase a championship, why are you skipping good races put on by good racers, who are treating you well? To go take a shot at a Wally? To collect too few points? To collect a woefully inadequate purse and contingencies?


I'll say this, right here, right now. When we went to Bowling Green for a Stock/Super Stock combo, we raced almost the exact same people and cars we raced the previous weekend at an LODRS race, or would race two weeks later at an NHRA National event. And winning that combo, against the same drivers, and the same NHRA legal cars, was damned sure every bit as much fun, and brought as much pride.
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Old 01-12-2023, 03:43 PM   #10
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Alan, good post!
I really want to answer you but I think that I'm going to start another thread. Gonna have to think about this for a bit.
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