What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking?

Bill Bogues · 03-10-2023, 09:13 PM

Excessive braking: Smoke coming from front tires; easy to see, easy to enforce. Common sense rulemaking.Probably why it's not in rule book.

Jack McCarthy · 03-11-2023, 01:08 PM

it was IHRA but scooter once most eloquently told me "i dont care if your rings go away if i see smoke at the finish line your *** is outta here"

i most certainly understood

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Jeff Stout · 03-11-2023, 05:28 PM

Tires smoking is tires sliding on surface. Sliding tires are out of control. Out of control is on the edge of crashing. Sounds like an accident waiting to happen. At a big bracket race at Speedworld I was race director and I expressed my feelings that making smoke your out. I told the racers it up to them how to handle it. Majority wanted to be tossed for smoke.
During elims a car made smoke and I tossed them. They came to me and wanted to show me the frozen caliper on car. Sure enough 1 was frozen and tire would not turn by hand. I reinstated them and they did replace caliper.

TOSTO RACING · 03-11-2023, 05:59 PM

Problem is whatever the rule is or will be. NHRA is to wishy washy, never consistent, like I've said before. But you all know this already . We all know what excessive braking means and is, and so does NHRA.Its just funny to me what they see and don't see depending on who you are.

e vassar · 03-11-2023, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TOSTO RACING

Problem is whatever the rule is or will be. NHRA is to wishy washy, never consistent, like I've said before. But you all know this already . We all know what excessive braking means and is, and so does NHRA.Its just funny to me what they see and don't see depending on who you are.

Wishy washy yes. Its a judgment call that can be pretty inconsistent.
However I hope "who you are" isn't a part of the process. I can tell you a former world champion doesn't get special handling here in D4. From what I have witnessed they are a little harder on him if anything.

jmcarter · 03-12-2023, 06:24 AM

When racers choose to hold a bunch they sometimes put themselves in a tricky situation. Look at Fletcher’s Super Street runs at the Gators, he’s one of the masters.

Sam Capizzi Jr · 03-12-2023, 03:46 PM

Let’s see how NHRA handles the Super street final since the “winner” locked em up. smoke and all.

03-10-2023, 09:13 PM	#1
Bill Bogues Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bethany La. Posts: 323 Likes: 96 Liked 169 Times in 53 Posts	Re: What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? Excessive braking: Smoke coming from front tires; easy to see, easy to enforce. Common sense rulemaking.Probably why it's not in rule book. __________________ Bill Bogues 4696 STK

03-11-2023, 01:08 PM	#2
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,322 Likes: 29 Liked 477 Times in 117 Posts	Re: What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? it was IHRA but scooter once most eloquently told me "i dont care if your rings go away if i see smoke at the finish line your *** is outta here" i most certainly understood ' __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

03-11-2023, 05:28 PM	#3
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,486 Likes: 66 Liked 704 Times in 281 Posts	Re: What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? Tires smoking is tires sliding on surface. Sliding tires are out of control. Out of control is on the edge of crashing. Sounds like an accident waiting to happen. At a big bracket race at Speedworld I was race director and I expressed my feelings that making smoke your out. I told the racers it up to them how to handle it. Majority wanted to be tossed for smoke. During elims a car made smoke and I tossed them. They came to me and wanted to show me the frozen caliper on car. Sure enough 1 was frozen and tire would not turn by hand. I reinstated them and they did replace caliper.

03-11-2023, 05:59 PM	#4
TOSTO RACING Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: DRAGSTRIP Posts: 886 Likes: 884 Liked 652 Times in 184 Posts	Re: What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? Problem is whatever the rule is or will be. NHRA is to wishy washy, never consistent, like I've said before. But you all know this already . We all know what excessive braking means and is, and so does NHRA.Its just funny to me what they see and don't see depending on who you are. __________________ 5664 GHI/SA 1985 CAMARO RED H/SA 1985 CAMARO BLUE I/SA Last edited by TOSTO RACING; 03-11-2023 at 06:06 PM.

03-12-2023, 06:24 AM	#6
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,297 Likes: 2,385 Liked 3,184 Times in 973 Posts	Re: What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? When racers choose to hold a bunch they sometimes put themselves in a tricky situation. Look at Fletcher’s Super Street runs at the Gators, he’s one of the masters. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

03-12-2023, 03:46 PM	#7
Sam Capizzi Jr Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rochester NY Posts: 131 Likes: 25 Liked 43 Times in 9 Posts	Re: What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? Let’s see how NHRA handles the Super street final since the “winner” locked em up. smoke and all. __________________ Sam Capizzi Jr. 1301 SS/AS 93 Dodge Daytona R/SA 73 Dodge Dart

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