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Old 03-26-2023, 07:05 PM   #1
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All classes in Comp were already required to have a device.
I don’t think the Hemi cars had to???
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Old 03-26-2023, 08:10 PM   #2
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I don’t think the Hemi cars had to???
I wore 1 in COMP this weekend with a Hemi car. What I understood is that all COMP classes have to wear it. Maybe I'm wrong
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Look at the effective date 1/1/2024
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Old 03-26-2023, 10:25 PM   #4
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I wore 1 in COMP this weekend with a Hemi car. What I understood is that all COMP classes have to wear it. Maybe I'm wrong
What brand \ style do you wear ?
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It was the Simpson Hybrid Pro
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Old 03-26-2023, 10:51 PM   #6
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I don’t think the Hemi cars had to???
From the 12/6/22 amendments.

SECTION 13: COMP, DRIVER: 10, NECK COLLAR/HEAD AND NECK
RESTRAINT DEVICE/SYSTEM (New Section after HELMET) (Page 6)
(12/6/2022)
A head and neck restraint device/system meeting SFI 38.1 mandatory and must
display a valid SFI label. At all times that the driver is in the race vehicle, from the
ready line until the vehicle is on the return road, driver must properly utilize an
SFI 38.1 head and neck restraint device/system, including connecting the helmet
as required for full functionality of the device. The head and neck restraint
device/system, when connected, must conform to the manufacturer’s mounting
instructions, and it must be configured, maintained, and used in accordance with
the manufacturer’s instructions. Modification of the device is prohibited. An SFI
38.1 head and neck restraint device can be used with, or without, a neck collar;
when a neck collar is not used, an SFI 3.3 head sock or SFI Spec 3.3 skirted
helmet is required.
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The rumor I heard was one-piece driving suits are next. Same effective date.

Brilliant.
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Old 03-27-2023, 09:51 AM   #8
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From the 12/6/22 amendments.

SECTION 13: COMP, DRIVER: 10, NECK COLLAR/HEAD AND NECK
RESTRAINT DEVICE/SYSTEM (New Section after HELMET) (Page 6)
(12/6/2022)
A head and neck restraint device/system meeting SFI 38.1 mandatory and must
display a valid SFI label. At all times that the driver is in the race vehicle, from the
ready line until the vehicle is on the return road, driver must properly utilize an
SFI 38.1 head and neck restraint device/system, including connecting the helmet
as required for full functionality of the device. The head and neck restraint
device/system, when connected, must conform to the manufacturer’s mounting
instructions, and it must be configured, maintained, and used in accordance with
the manufacturer’s instructions. Modification of the device is prohibited. An SFI
38.1 head and neck restraint device can be used with, or without, a neck collar;
when a neck collar is not used, an SFI 3.3 head sock or SFI Spec 3.3 skirted
helmet is required.
Here's the part I don't understand.......you can't put the neck collar over the head and neck restraint.......at least on the 1 I have. I need to try and put it on under the helmet straps.

An SFI
38.1 head and neck restraint device can be used with, or without, a neck collar;
when a neck collar is not used, an SFI 3.3 head sock or SFI Spec 3.3 skirted
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Old 03-27-2023, 10:01 AM   #9
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AH/SM "was" the only class in comp that did not require a head/neck restraint device. That was due to the rules for AH/SM mirror the SS/AH (super stock) rules. It is still, technically, going to be that way. If you have an SS/AH/AH/SM car that does not go over 150 you still don't need it.

I think this a great rule change. If you are going 150 + in a car over 3000 lbs (which is the majority of Stock/Super Stock that can go that fast) you should be wearing a HANS-type device. It's only your neck/brain that you're trying to protect.....

The reasoning for the wording of the neck collar along with the HANS is that you must have something to protect your neck in case of a fire. The neck collar satisfies that requirement, but if you wear a HANS and no neck collar you are exposed. Hence the skirted helmet/head sock/neck collar options. Most everyone I have seen runs a sock
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Old 03-27-2023, 10:51 AM   #10
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I believe its a great idea. I watched my close friend, Wes Leopold, barrel roll in SGMP. Quit counting at 10 times and was praying that he'd be alright. Walked away with some shoulder pain that he had before the incident. I'm sure the Hans device played some role in saving his neck, literally speaking.
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