Approval of Super Stock Class Aftermarket Cylinder Heads

[shoebox racer]

Tim, you put a lot of words in my mouth that I did not speak. I have nothing but respect for the people who do cylinder heads and the work they put in. I have zero issue with Chad or anyone else. The op asked for a discussion and I thought it was a good one to have so I thought I would contribute with my personal preferences. No intention of grandeur, just my 2 cents. As for my house, it needs and gets upgraded from time to time. My daily driver is a 1974 bronco updated all the way to 1993 speed density fuel injection and I spent most of today working on my 16 year old sons 1972 Buick skylark daily driver. I guess I’m behind the times for a person in their forties. Hope you can stop waiting and move on now!

[Rory McNeil]

Funny thing about the "upgraded" cylinder heads, is that like many other things that get "upgraded", such "upgrades" became allowed because so many people were outright cheating , and I guess NHRA threw their hands up in the air, and now the cheating was now made acceptable. I am a little to young to remember when Stocker cams had to meet the OE lift, duration, and valve spring pressures, but I certainly remember when NHRA allowed porting, welding, and epoxying heads for Super Stock, because so many cheaters were running ILLEGALLY ported and welded heads, and then trying to cover up their cheating. So, NHRA gave in, and now the cheaters, were suddenly the innovators! So yes, the "upgrades" allowed the SS cars to go faster, and no longer had to cover up their cheating. Then came all the approved aftermarket heads, intake manifolds, carbs, etc, all under the guise that it was "too hard" to find factory heads. Find it strange that the big and SB Chevy racers, and 390 Ford, and some MoPar racers that run common combinations, that all were produced by the millions, can`t find any OE heads, but the handful of heads produced for stuff like Max Wedge MoPars, that have all been used for racing for 60 years, can still be found. There are a lot of combinations in the NHRA rulebook, that are not "blessed" with accepted, aftermarket heads, intakes and carbs, kinda makes for a tilted playing field, no? Seems kinda strange to look under the hood of a "Stocker", with lightweight aftermarket seats, wheelie bars, and a 4 gallon fuel cell,and see a Quick Time or Edelbrock carb, sitting on an non factory intake manifold, bolted to Edelbrock aluminum heads, makes you look at the window to see if you are looking at a "Stocker, Super Stocker, or PRO bracket car.

[SpeierRacing]

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

Funny thing about the "upgraded" cylinder heads, is that like many other things that get "upgraded", such "upgrades" became allowed because so many people were outright cheating , and I guess NHRA threw their hands up in the air, and now the cheating was now made acceptable. I am a little to young to remember when Stocker cams had to meet the OE lift, duration, and valve spring pressures, but I certainly remember when NHRA allowed porting, welding, and epoxying heads for Super Stock, because so many cheaters were running ILLEGALLY ported and welded heads, and then trying to cover up their cheating. So, NHRA gave in, and now the cheaters, were suddenly the innovators! So yes, the "upgrades" allowed the SS cars to go faster, and no longer had to cover up their cheating. Then came all the approved aftermarket heads, intake manifolds, carbs, etc, all under the guise that it was "too hard" to find factory heads. Find it strange that the big and SB Chevy racers, and 390 Ford, and some MoPar racers that run common combinations, that all were produced by the millions, can`t find any OE heads, but the handful of heads produced for stuff like Max Wedge MoPars, that have all been used for racing for 60 years, can still be found. There are a lot of combinations in the NHRA rulebook, that are not "blessed" with accepted, aftermarket heads, intakes and carbs, kinda makes for a tilted playing field, no? Seems kinda strange to look under the hood of a "Stocker", with lightweight aftermarket seats, wheelie bars, and a 4 gallon fuel cell,and see a Quick Time or Edelbrock carb, sitting on an non factory intake manifold, bolted to Edelbrock aluminum heads, makes you look at the window to see if you are looking at a "Stocker, Super Stocker, or PRO bracket car.

There isn't a soul, including myself, that would disagree with you! But, here we are..

[L.Fite]

From what I understand Edelbrock isn't casting "Replacement Heads" any longer... have been on back order for more than a year?
Only interested in late model LS/Coyote stuff?
And I understand they cast the castings for GM also, which have been unobtainium lately also.
Correct me if I wrong... (I hope I am...)

Scanning evil bay, seems castings for the mid late 60s stuff is also going for astronomical prices, and some (most) of what I've seen is junk!
Same goes for carburetors and intakes...
So...

Same for swap meets locally, most stuff is used up or ground up, even the common stuff, let alone anything rare...
Missed out on some decent square port heads and aluminum intake at a decent price, by the time I got to the back 40, someone else had already put money down on them...

Oh well, I guess you got to get up early, and move fast!...

Any way that's just my observations.