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Old 04-17-2023, 01:25 PM   #1
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Ask the Bader's , they know how it is done.
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Old 04-17-2023, 01:34 PM   #2
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The only Divisional on the west coast that I can think of that had a decent spectator turnout is Mission. Oh wait, we're not running a Divsional there anymore...
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Old 04-17-2023, 02:16 PM   #3
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Can't get the crowds if they don't know about it
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Old 04-17-2023, 02:54 PM   #4
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Ask the Bader's , they know how it is done.
I won the wheelstand contest at Baders Cavalcade of Stars a couple times. Still have the 200 Dollar check stubs around here somewhere. He drew names of 10 spectators and if you were a winner you were placed at a picnic table right behind the startling line. They had large hand held scorecards to rate their votes.They held these cards up after every car left the starting line. Of course he was doing his "Bader Central" on the mic as this was all happening.I remember Ricky Decker walking past me as I was taking all the weight out of the nose and raising my wheelie bars saying "Wanger, your gonna win that thing aint ya" LOL. He had Jet Trucks, Fuel Harley Davidsons (those guys are nuts! ) and free tickets. He advertised as far east as Philadelphia on the radio, flyers,and I think TV. The ads were pretty frequent. He later told folks he lost money on the deal, but was adamant he was going to somehow, someway fill that place at a Points meet.
He actually had to close the gates as he was at capacity


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Old 04-17-2023, 03:31 PM   #5
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Give away tickets to racers
Great idea but ain’t happening
Free and Nhra are like oil and water
They don’t mixl
Also crew passes are no longer discounted
Pay $20a day Like spectators
Zero favorites. That’s how you make $$$
Everyone pays
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Old 04-17-2023, 07:46 PM   #6
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Keith Mayers is right. The 2016 VMP Lucas Oil Race was free to race fans except for a parking fee. We had a great spectator turn out. The Alcohol cars were fast, no down time from them, the usual hard launching wheel standing stock / super stock cars put on their usual great show. Big lines at the "Hot Rod Grill' food stand went on all day long. It worked for them. As an announcer it is much more fun to have a nice crowd out there. A very fun and successful event.

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Old 04-17-2023, 09:36 PM   #7
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For the last couple of years, New England Dragway has combined its "Night of Fire" with its LODRS Divisional. Jet cars, wheelstanders, and some radio advertising along with the divisional cars has resulted in great crowds and an almost national event atmosphere.
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Old 04-18-2023, 01:09 PM   #8
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I think the main reason there are no spectators at divisional races is the track owners/promoters have gotten lazy. There is really no promotion of the events. Raise entry fees and crew fees but don’t try to get a spectator in the gate.
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Old 04-18-2023, 01:52 PM   #9
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I don't think 100% of the blame should be dropped at the doorstep of the tracks and promoters. The racers ourselves are as much to blame for lack of asses in the seats as the track owners. Why do I think that? Remember when we were kids and saw a racecar on a trailer going down the road or at a stoplight or sitting in an auto parts store parking lot? Remember your life goal at that very moment was to look at it as closely as possible? How excited you would get checking out the slicks, the rims, the body lines the open headers popping out from under the car? Damn good times and memories right? What have today's kids (and kids over the last 25-30 years for that matter) got to get excited about.....seeing a big white enclosed trailer being pulled by a motorhome. It could be the greatest racecar in the world or it could be hauling a few four wheelers and whatnot for a family vacation. It could even be full of garage sale bull**** heading for the next flea market. I know, many racers don't want their cars rained on or fear someone messing with their stuff or whatever, but we are as much to blame as anyone else. How about volunteering to take your racecar to the local highschool autoshop to talk to the future of our sport...um, I mean talk to the kids about every little thing about the car? The shopping mall in Flatrock Michigan use to have a racecar show inside the mall every year where the cars would be on display in the corridors and it was fun watching the little ones just drool over them.
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I don't think 100% of the blame should be dropped at the doorstep of the tracks and promoters. The racers ourselves are as much to blame for lack of asses in the seats as the track owners. Why do I think that? Remember when we were kids and saw a racecar on a trailer going down the road or at a stoplight or sitting in an auto parts store parking lot? Remember your life goal at that very moment was to look at it as closely as possible? How excited you would get checking out the slicks, the rims, the body lines the open headers popping out from under the car? Damn good times and memories right? What have today's kids (and kids over the last 25-30 years for that matter) got to get excited about.....seeing a big white enclosed trailer being pulled by a motorhome. It could be the greatest racecar in the world or it could be hauling a few four wheelers and whatnot for a family vacation. It could even be full of garage sale bull**** heading for the next flea market. I know, many racers don't want their cars rained on or fear someone messing with their stuff or whatever, but we are as much to blame as anyone else. How about volunteering to take your racecar to the local highschool autoshop to talk to the future of our sport...um, I mean talk to the kids about every little thing about the car? The shopping mall in Flatrock Michigan use to have a racecar show inside the mall every year where the cars would be on display in the corridors and it was fun watching the little ones just drool over them.
You are dead wrong on this one. Its not up to the racers to try to promote the races. That is the job of track owner to promote the show. The ship has sailed on the open trailer thing. Most of us have motorhomes, toter homes of LQ trailers and stay at the track during the events. We all have enclosed trailers and would not go back to the old days of a flat trailer. Some of the local bracket racers might use open trailers. I keep all of my racing equipment in the trailer all of the time and that is separate from my tools in the shop.
The track owners/promoters have gotten lazy and it seems like it is easier to rise the entry fee and the crew fee than it is to try to get some spectator interest in what is happening at the racetrack. You would think these track operators would be all over the social media advertising their shows. That cost nothing except some time to make the posts.
The NHRA is a pretty good show. Lots of different types of classes and cars plus its a full days entertainment for one ticket.
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