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Old 09-07-2023, 07:16 AM   #1
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If there's an "electric solenoid for each gear", couldn't you rig up some kind of electric "shifter" to control what solenoids are engaged and dis-engaged and use it for gear selection and engagement? Just "brain-farting" here.
I don't see why not. Would be interesting to see how people react to that. It would be similar to what they were using in Pro Stock during the 90's to control the Lenco solenoids I suppose.

I will add that I have had some in depth conversation with a Chrysler transmission engineer who didn't come out and directly say, but heavily implied that these transmissions were designed to fail.
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I will add that I have had some in depth conversation with a Chrysler transmission engineer who didn't come out and directly say, but heavily implied that these transmissions were designed to fail.
Steve, I've had to deal with Powerglides and later, 200 Turbos. They were junk until Racers got their hands on them and fixed them. Now, they're in everything!
Maybe it's time for a Racer to step up and prove that "Chrysler transmission engineer" wrong.
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Old 09-07-2023, 12:46 PM   #3
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Steve, I've had to deal with Powerglides and later, 200 Turbos. They were junk until Racers got their hands on them and fixed them. Now, they're in everything!
Maybe it's time for a Racer to step up and prove that "Chrysler transmission engineer" wrong.
When we did the Monte Carlo, (3.4 V6 , 3300# , high 13's) I had decided to use a 125 C 3 speed, rather than the electronic OD.
The 125 started life in a 1980 4 cylinder Citation ( X car).
It never failed us at the track, but it tended to wear out final drives.
It was a bunch of work,.. having to fabricate mounts, a bracket for the TV cable ,and a custom right hand axle of the appropriate length.
If the earlier Mopar transaxle is close to a bolt -in deal, I'd go that way.
If not, the later one could probably be controlled by a series of switches. Clutch apply could be firmed up, I would think.
Light car , 4 cylinder shouldn't cause a lot of grief in that department.
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As far as the solenoids go...(I'll try to be brief) Had a 93 f350 with a 7.3 and the e4od. Broke the planetary so I got another e4od out of a 98. Connectors etc all different.(6 planetary instead of 3 planetaries, much stronger too) I wired the solenoids (to test) and ran the wires up to the dash. Put the truck in drive and nothing. Depending on which switch (or series of switches) I went through all the gears as well as locking up the converter. Even went for a test drive.
So, yes it can be done.
Hassle? Yeah, a bank of 4 switches that you toggle through going down the track?...that would be interesting to say the least in competition!
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As far as the solenoids go...(I'll try to be brief) Had a 93 f350 with a 7.3 and the e4od. Broke the planetary so I got another e4od out of a 98. Connectors etc all different.(6 planetary instead of 3 planetaries, much stronger too) I wired the solenoids (to test) and ran the wires up to the dash. Put the truck in drive and nothing. Depending on which switch (or series of switches) I went through all the gears as well as locking up the converter. Even went for a test drive.
So, yes it can be done.
Hassle? Yeah, a bank of 4 switches that you toggle through going down the track?...that would be interesting to say the least in competition!
You'd probably have to throw some relays into the mix, too.
Doesn't sound impossible though.
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As far as the solenoids go...(I'll try to be brief) Had a 93 f350 with a 7.3 and the e4od. Broke the planetary so I got another e4od out of a 98. Connectors etc all different.(6 planetary instead of 3 planetaries, much stronger too) I wired the solenoids (to test) and ran the wires up to the dash. Put the truck in drive and nothing. Depending on which switch (or series of switches) I went through all the gears as well as locking up the converter. Even went for a test drive.
So, yes it can be done.
Hassle? Yeah, a bank of 4 switches that you toggle through going down the track?...that would be interesting to say the least in competition!

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