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Old 11-02-2023, 11:34 AM   #1
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Years ago, Arnold Greene ran 9.60's in his 69 Camaro. For some reason I'm thinking he ran the ZL1 engine??? My memory is not to good anymore!
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Old 11-02-2023, 09:17 PM   #2
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Years ago, Arnold Greene ran 9.60's in his 69 Camaro. For some reason I'm thinking he ran the ZL1 engine??? My memory is not to good anymore!
NHRA just approved the ZL1 for stock eliminator a few years ago I think all of Arnold’s motors were 396 ‘s
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I’ve got a suggestion for consideration: How about everyone runs A/S at their posted minimum weights, and all of the LS combinations have to be 20lbs under B/S weight? This essentially gives all non-LS combinations a .15 second (150lb weight) advantage, and tips the advantage greatly in favor of the non-LS combos. And on top of it, FastShocks will post another $2,000 to the winner if this is acceptable and allows everyone to participate together like we have in the past.

Given what you saw this year, I don’t think anyone could argue that this would more than level the field.
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Old 11-03-2023, 03:19 PM   #4
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Mike, we have had discussions with the racers who have attended Indy for the last two years as well as other racers in the AA/S and A/S community. All feedback for the AA/S shootout and the rules have been well received and supported by them. I will understand if some choose not to participate. As previously mentioned, this is another option for AA/S and A/S racers, participation is not mandatory. Tnx
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Old 11-04-2023, 04:38 PM   #5
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That is pretty surprising that everyone is on the same page with your consolation race. For everyone that has supported A/S for years to take a week off of work, go to Indy, put in all of the effort it takes to be competitive and to win a consolation race with a sub-set of rules, may not win an actual Indy Class wally, or qualify for the race, just to avoid a set of cars that they feel have an advantage? Wouldn't it be a lot more logical to find an agreeable way to try and level the playing field?

I think all of us guys with an LS would be all ears to find a compromise that would give everyone a confident feeling of a leveled playing field. I really don't think anyone would feel a lot of pride to win a race with an asterisk that doesn't even include some of the competitive players.
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Old 11-04-2023, 10:45 PM   #6
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Kevin Thank you and your brother for putting up this kind of money. Almost the key word is almost makes me want to put a stick in my car. Hope it turns out great for you. I think you could get some engine builders to kick in some money if it's one of their motors that win. Thanks Again Barry

Maybe this will inspire others to put up some money in other classes or another race. I have always loved running Top Stock in Division one with Dave Ley rules.
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Old 11-06-2023, 03:18 AM   #7
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Years ago, Arnold Greene ran 9.60's in his 69 Camaro. For some reason I'm thinking he ran the ZL1 engine??? My memory is not to good anymore!
Iron 425 motor and I’m pretty sure it was in the 50’s.
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Old 11-06-2023, 10:05 AM   #8
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Not sure i get the whole thing. I thought that Indy was a balls out run what you brung heads up race. The added money is nice but i would think most people want the Wally and the bragging rights of being the best in class that day in an open class with no additional rules. .This sounds like build back better.
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Old 11-18-2023, 07:07 PM   #9
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A 2019 Dodge 392 Scat Pak fits nicely in AA/S, especially if you can be at 20 lbs. under A weight. I need to get the parts ordered! Testing in April. Thanks for the opportunity.
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Old 11-20-2023, 10:06 AM   #10
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Not sure i get the whole thing. I thought that Indy was a balls out run what you brung heads up race. The added money is nice but i would think most people want the Wally and the bragging rights of being the best in class that day in an open class with no additional rules. .This sounds like build back better.
Bragging rights in A/S is reserved for combos without a carburetor
The LS and LT1 cars will dominate as they have for years
That’s the whole point of this a competitive field
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