Jr Dragsters At Divisionals

[Mike Pearson]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

EXACTLY and to be honest all this bitching comes from the stock/super stock racers because they believe what they do is special, that they're better than all the rest of the racers/classes.

This is not true at all. The difference between the comp, stock and super stock racers is the division races national opens and national events are our only venues to race. All of the other classes can and do bracket race on a local level. That’s why we get up in arms when a new class of cars invade what was our domain at one time. I have been racing in modified and super stock for about 45 years. There was no such thing as the .90 classes, jr dragsters or the top cars at our division races when I started racing. I was 18 years old and raced in C/S.M. high winding aluminum rod small block with a 4 speed.

[1320racer]

It is true and when you make this statement

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson

we get up in arms when a new class of cars invade what was our domain at one time. I have been racing in modified and super stock for about 45 years. There was no such thing as the .90 classes, jr dragsters or the top cars at our division races when I started racing.

you prove my point and demonstrate how many stock/super stock racers feel. Thanks for being honest. That said, S/SS racers can bracket race too but many choose not too because they feel bracket racing is beneath them but the truth is every round they race IS a bracket race until paired on the ladder with a same class car, a pairing everybody plays the ladder game during qualifying to avoid in the early rounds.

[Mike Pearson]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

It is true and when you make this statement



you prove my point and demonstrate how many stock/super stock racers feel. Thanks for being honest. That said, S/SS racers can bracket race too but many choose not too because they feel bracket racing is beneath them but the truth is every round they race IS a bracket race until paired on the ladder with a same class car, a pairing everybody plays the ladder game during qualifying to avoid in the early rounds.

I guess we could but our cars are not built like a true bracket car that races every weekend. Our cars are purpose built to run our classes. Lots of gear and very high rpm. I guess you could bracket race a pro stock or top fuel too in your way of thinking.

[Mike Volkman]

And the difference is....a class racer looks forward to that heads up race...even if your car is slower, which brings up the whole AHFS issue which I'm not bringing up. Has nothing to do with anyone being above or below. We long for the heads up competition. If it were up to me I'd eliminate about half of the classes.

2nd point....If you guys could/would see the appreciation the kids have from when we sponsored them this year in D2 you probably have a change of heart. We handed them hats, a trailer check and you would of thought we gave them the world. Also paying the division Jr Dragster champs in each of the 3 categories a $1,000 payout. Talk to one of the jr's running around with the event winner and runner up hats and see what they think.

Funny thinking about it, the same reaction was received when the stockers and super stocks got the Top Qualifier awards.

Volkman
SDS, Inc.

[Steve Stasko]

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson

I guess we could but our cars are not built like a true bracket car that races every weekend. Our cars are purpose built to run our classes. Lots of gear and very high rpm. I guess you could bracket race a pro stock or top fuel too in your way of thinking.

The top 10 points earners in S/SS last year ran more races than a regular local bracket racer did for points. The average in the National Top 10 is 12-14 races. I checked three tracks, with three different sanctions, and two ran 10 points races, while one ran 11...

[Mike Schwartz]

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

The top 10 points earners in S/SS last year ran more races than a regular local bracket racer did for points. The average in the National Top 10 is 12-14 races. I checked three tracks, with three different sanctions, and two ran 10 points races, while one ran 11...

I don't know if this applies to your point, but ET racers rarely race only a single track's points races and nothing else. For example, I competed before the era of big-money multi-day bracket races, and I raced up to 40 times in a single year, just hitting all the multiple local tracks weekly, with the rare road trip.

[Steve Stasko]

Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz

I competed before the era of big-money multi-day bracket races, and I raced up to 40 times in a single year

How many of those tracks that you ran are still open, and running bracket programs?

[Mike Schwartz]

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

How many of those tracks that you ran are still open, and running bracket programs?

I was based in north Jersey starting in '76, so three out of the four NJ tracks open at that time have shut down. Many parts of the country weren't blessed with the number of tracks needed to race locally 40 times a year.

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz

I don't know if this applies to your point, but ET racers rarely race only a single track's points races and nothing else. For example, I competed before the era of big-money multi-day bracket races, and I raced up to 40 times in a single year, just hitting all the multiple local tracks weekly, with the rare road trip.

Same happens around here, the 3 local tracks which Kinston, Coastal Plains in Jacksonville and Galot have 15 or so points races per season. They very rarely compete against each other on the same weekend and you have many racers around here that run for points at all of them so you're looking at 40 to 45 races per year for some of those racers. Granted not all of them but I can think of 30-40 really hardcore racers that do this many year after year.

[Lenny5160_v2]

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson

This is not true at all. The difference between the comp, stock and super stock racers is the division races national opens and national events are our only venues to race. All of the other classes can and do bracket race on a local level.

You say this while giving no thought to the possibility that a car set up ideally for the .90 classes is not the same as an ideal bracket setup for the same car.

Ed's assessment of the mentality of many S/SS racers toward the other classes (many; not all) is spot-on.